Topic: Newbie here...please help me out

[learning_towalk]

Hey guys and gals...

I've been collecting live shows for 2 years now.
I'm an active member of Phishhook.com my sign in is Learning_towalk

well,I've finally decided to get started taping. 90% of the shows I hit are smaller venued shows such as clubs or small theatres...but I do hit the occasional Phish,Dead,Panic show at bigger venues and I hit some festivals in the summer(all that was just to give you an idea of what area I'll be taping at)

I'm trying to decide on a starting rig...Don't wanna sink a couple grand into a rig right now.

so here is what I'm looking at please tell me how this rig would sound and what else would I need???....

I could get this rig for around 600 bucks used and that's  really the price range I'm lookin to stay around.

(2) Oktava MK012's
M-Audio USB mobie preamp
either a Nomad JB3 or Laptop

thanks a lot for the info

[Nick in Edinboro]

What retailer are you thinking of getting the Oktava's from?

How much does the M-Audio USB mobie preamp retail for?  Another option in this area is the highly regarded Edirol UA-5.  If your remotely handy with a soldering iron or have a friend who is you can modify it yourself and have a nice all in one box for cheap.

The JB3 is money though...

BTW, is that you with Al?

[jpschust]

lemme make a suggestion

rather than the usb pre why not go for the ua-5.  its about 350 bucks and if you get it from oade brothers then you can send it back to them later to have them mod it.  its a great all in one pre/ad at its price range and it has usb capability

J

[pfife]

A sturdy stand and good cables will add some money too... prolly around $100... don't forget remote power... that will add more money too...

Sucks... the expense keeps building with this obsession...

but its a great time.

[Nick in Edinboro]

+ T-bar, Shockmounts, Windscreens = another $100

[nickgregory]

also dont forget that for a stand, t bar, cables etc..there will be some more cost...anywhere from $100-$175 probably is a fair estimate

[nickgregory]

3 people with the same train of thought...damn we are all robots

[Nick in Edinboro]

Lisa: Almost done. Just lay still.
Linguo: Lie still.
Lisa: I knew that. Just testing.
Linguo: Sentence fragment.
Lisa: 'Sentence fragment' is also a sentence fragment.
Linguo: Must conserve battery power.

[learning_towalk]

first of all, yes that's me with Al at Bonnaroo this year.

I'd be getting the Oktavas new from a seller on Ebay(they are the real deal with the warranty papers and stuff though)

The mobile pre's go forr 150new from Musiciansfriend

also I already have access to a stand and tbar from one of my friends who got a new stand+tbar,etc

thanks for the help, keep it comin

[pfife]

Are the octava's a matched pair, and what capsules are you getting?

And if you are looking to stay below $600 or so, and you are getting a pre... you are prolly looking at a MD recorder instead of a NJB3...

NJB3 approx. $300 new... (for the 40gb model) - but you can get a refurb or a 20 gb model... that's about $200, I believe.

Pre- prolly be spending approx $300 there too...

and you havent figured the mic's into the equation yet.

[learning_towalk]

I'm not sure if they are a matched pair or not...they come with various capsuls

[pfife]

I'm not sure if they are a matched pair or not...they come with various capsuls

I have no personal experience w/ these mics, but from what I have read, it is pretty important to make sure they are a matched pair...

Maybe someone else can give better advice about that than I...

[jpschust]

why not just hand match em at guitar center for 100 bucks?

[pfife]

why not just hand match em at guitar center for 100 bucks?

I called my local GC, and they selling them for $100 each now, and not $100 a pair... I think that sale is over, unfortunately...

There was some questioning of the quality of those GC Octava's some time ago in the open forum, I believe...

[learning_towalk]

what is the differance between a matched pair and an unmatched pair???