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Gear / Technical Help => Post-Processing, Computer / Streaming / Internet Devices & Related Activity => Topic started by: Simp-Dawg on July 23, 2003, 12:08:29 AM
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k...i just started using shntool after i got called out for having SBE's in my phish gorge fileset - (sigh) d'oh
i figured out how to install...it works with flac after i copied flac.exe into the installation directory...i figured out how to override the default wav output by using the -o switch...
but after going through the documentation a few times i can't find out how to override the "-fixed" addition to files or exactly how the -d switch works to specify a different directory...
can anyone point me in the right direction or offer up some advice? also...is there a gui frontend for this? i don't hate the command prompt but i'm a busy man :afro:
thanks in advance
simpalicious
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Seems like I remember Scott Brown having a way around that. Maybe not though.
-Kevin
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There's an easier way...just use shnfix -o shn * on your wav files. That way it'll convert the wavs to shns and fix sector boundaries all at the same time.
Otherwise, here's Scott's way around it, cut and pasted from an old post:
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you can edit it so it doesn't add the "-fixed"
download the latest shntool source code. open up the fix.c source file (it might be core-fix.c or somethign, i can check when at home).
put a "//" before the #DEFINE postfix line
then down lower, put a "//" on the 2 lines that add the "-" and "fixed". or i'll send you the binary
(if you're a computer geek already then maybe i should have just said comment out the lines that add the -fixed)
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right on, +T for diggin up the info!
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No prob. And as far as I'm aware, there's no front-end GUI for shntool. Of course, if you don't want to deal with shntool at all, just use CD-Wave to record/split your tracks; it forces everything to split on sector boundaries to begin with. +T to Kevin for remembering Scott's post...and to think it was in response to my thread but I'd forgotten it...hehe...
--Dave
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i'm going to look into creating a GUI for os x shntool after work today....
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You are right about the CDWave splitting, but the last track normally has to be fixed.
-Kevin
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i'm going to look into creating a GUI for os x shntool after work today....
Damn, I shoulda pestered about this sooner...
:yahoo: :coolguy:
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i'm going to look into creating a GUI for os x shntool after work today....
A buddy of mine and I have kind of started to try this... Didn't know if anyone really wanted it other than me, so maybe we'll work a little harder. ;)
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You are right about the CDWave splitting, but the last track normally has to be fixed.
-Kevin
yep that's typically where my SBE's are occurring....and i am using cd wave to split. anyone know how well the align sector boundaries feature in flac works? i haven't given it a try yet but i may have to now...or else i'll just run shntool on the wavs after splitting.
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i'm just going to try one similar to macflac GUI front end. nothing special. it probaly own't do EVERYTHING shntool and shorten can do. all the options will still be available through command line, but i think having fix, len, info, conv shntool commands will be useful in a first version. to conv to shn all you have to do is the shntool conv function.
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You are right about the CDWave splitting, but the last track normally has to be fixed.
-Kevin
Why not just use CDWave to snip off the last millisecond of the track? Voila, no more SBE & you get to delete the resultant 2K file!
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Good point.
-Kevin
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It has been a while since I did any Visual Basic stuff, but I don't think it would be THAT hard to write a Windows front end.
-Kevin
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It has been a while since I did any Visual Basic stuff, but I don't think it would be THAT hard to write a Windows front end.
-Kevin
d00d, write it, yo!
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Got a lot on my plate but I will look into it.
-Kevin
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What all would it need to do?
1) Fix SBE
2) SHN
3) Len
-Kevin
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I'm gonna try and put most if not all functions in the OS X version. The priorities are LEN, FIX, and CONV...might add the MD5 to it as well...
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Maybe I will cut out a little early today and see what I can come up with.
-Kevni
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do flac too, i am using that primarily now as mkwact has decided to shit the bed on my home pc, still works on the laptop though
do you know how to write installers? it would be cool to have a little prog to install shntool and all the necessary "helper" programs to the %path%, knowutimean?
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One step at a time. Think I'll start with just a front end for now. I program for a living and don't want to spend all my free time on this. ;)
-Kevin
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c'mon man, don't you wanna work for free? kickdown so i can flac down, brah! all your brains are belong to us....
j/k, thanks in advance for anything you do come up with, i'm sure if someone gets it started, then others will be willing to help out improving on it
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LOL!
All my Free Time are belong to me!
-Kevin
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post i sent to the mac-tapers@yahoogroups list this morning. i wrote something up last night that as of now does flac, shn, and some shntool commands. it's got all the functionality, i just need to clean it up tonight and make the interface look less clunky. already used it this morning to compress some shns, with seek tables appended and an md5 automatically generated. will finish tonight or tomorrow and have it for you guys by the weekend.
>>i've started writing a GUI for shntool 1.2.3 and shorten 3.5.1.
Anyway, instead of writing it from scratch, i figured I'd start with MacFLAC and expand on that, since it already does the basics and why rewrite the code for that? I've expanded on a few of the tabs in MacFLAC and added a few other specific ones
here's a rundown of what it does so far:
Decode tab: stays the same. if you feed it flac or shn, it'll give the option of aiff or wav output and decompress accordingly
Encode Tab: new radio buttons for FLAC or SHN output. if FLAC output, you can choose compression ratio like before. if SHN output, you can choose to generate an MD5 for the files you're compressing and it'll do the compression and md5 generation all in 1 shot
checksum tab: before, it was the Fingerprint tab. now it'll do flac fingerprints and MD5 sums. if you drop flac files on this, it'll do flac fingerprint. if you drop SHNS on this, it'll do md5 sum. should i change this to 2 separate tabs? if people ever want to make md5s of flac files, 2 tabs would be better so it wouldn't automatically choose. or i could simply include a checkbox on the 1 tab saying "even though these are flac files, make md5 sums instead of the fingerprint file"
shntool tab: which shntool functions should I include here? i have len and info so far, should I include join? i could include split but then you'd have to feed it a text file, and to be honest, i'd rather do the split through command line shntool anyway, more control and options. so maybe just len and info?
shntool FIX tab: no i didn't forget about this shntool feature. since it's probably the most used and has a bunch of options, i figured i'd give it it's own tab. there will be a file list like the encode/decode tabs, and output radio buttons (output format can be shn, wav, aiff) and there will be a checkbox to create an md5 all in one shot too, just like encode. does anyone ever actually specify forward or backward shift or does everyone just use the default? i was thinking just let it use the default
anything else this should have? in terms of output generated from this app, and by output i don't mean the converted files but things like the output of the shntool len command, or the info command, should this open in a new window? or can i just output that info (which in the case of "shninfo" can be rather long) to a text file in the same dir of the files?
let me know what else this should have
scott
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Well you got a lot further last night than I did. ;) If you want any help (coding or testing) just lemme know, but right now it sounds pretty good.
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yeah please help test. works on my powerbook, though who knows how it'll do on othr machines. i'll post here when i have a copy for people to test
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Count me in for testing too. +T for the effortz/skillz/making me misspell wordz like this. z.
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I think I might get around to doing this next week sometime. ANybody wanna throw some more ideas for me to think about while I am on vacation end of this week?
-Kevin
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You are right about the CDWave splitting, but the last track normally has to be fixed.
-Kevin
I thought CDwav was the sw to use ? What am I missing ?
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Mark - Nothing. See my reply right below Kevin's post... Trim off the last few milliseconds of the end track to get rid of the SBE.