Topic: Best mics (or caps) for outdoor festival i.e. Bonnaroo

[jb3newbie]

Just wondering if I should keep my eyes open for some deals on some outdoor festival mics...seeing as how it will not be too long before it happens.   I am currently the owner of ADK sc-t's .   I havent even ran these yet.  I just wanna make sure I have the right mics for outdoors.

[jpschust]

well for bonnaroo everyone runs way fob so dont worry about it, run your adk's for a while- see how ya like them- then go from there.

[sexymexi]

just show up with what you have..  i'll be there almost 100% sure.  hope to see more TS.com representing, peace.

matt

[Ed.]

what about windscreens?

right now all i have is the really cheap small pair that came with my superlux mics.  i've never used them cuz i never tape anything where i have needed them.  but now i'm getting worried.  will they work ok, or should i invest in something better.  i don't want to drop a lot of money on these tho, since i'll probably never use them much.

[Swampy]

what about windscreens?

right now all i have is the really cheap small pair that came with my superlux mics.  i've never used them cuz i never tape anything where i have needed them.  but now i'm getting worried.  will they work ok, or should i invest in something better.  i don't want to drop a lot of money on these tho, since i'll probably never use them much.

Dont use thoes outside!!! I learned from experence!!!  

[jpschust]

ok its worth spending the money on really nice screens- you will use them a lot more than you think.  in fact mics should ALWAYS be used with windscreens, even indoors.  There are a few exceptions, but they are all studio based- not live recording based.  Think about it- you've got smoke in venues, air conditioning, fans, and the possability of your mics getting knocked to the ground-- all things that windscreens can possibly save you from.  Especially smoke- windscreens will save your mics from smoke better than just about anything other than not bringing them into bars and clubs.

[caymanreview]

what jonny said! i always run screens indoors and outdoors!

[heath]

good point about windscreens, but I still don't use them 90% of the time if I'm indoors.  I'll learn my lesson eventually.  

H

[Ed.]

good points, well then i'll say this, i still don't really want to spend a lot of money on these because soooner than later i want to get better mics and i don't think the windscreens that will work on these will work on the ones (neumann skm140's) i want to get.  maybe i'll just head to the local stores and see what i can find for cheap, unless any of you have any ideas?

ed

[Kindguy]

the big DPA's are 14 bucks each (if my memory serves me right) at sonicsense.

[Ed.]

nice, i'll take a look.

[Tim]

one nice thing about taping Boulder... no smoking in the whole city, and soon it will be the same in Denver!

[Sterling]

Same is here in new York, no smoking anywhere. I don't run windscreens though,  don't even have any. Anyone here had any experience with the small ones from Olsen Audio or should I invest in DPA ones for like $40?
SS

[heath]

i knew i moved away from nyc for a reason....

[jimmc]

i knew i moved away from nyc for a reason....

The no smoking thing isnt just in the City anymore.  I live south of Buffalo and it is a state-wide law that bans smoking. NYC started it in March and the rest of the state followed in July. Damn cold outside for us smokers. Should be a reason to quit, but now they are trying to reverse the law.
I dont smoke around my gear though. I try to at least keep a safe distance, especially when I was a patcher.

[Chapper]

one nice thing about taping Boulder... no smoking in the whole city, and soon it will be the same in Denver!

Cigarettes, that is!

[BCostigan]

That's what kinda gets me is POT smokers that shun cigarette smokers.  I don't want to start a whole smoking debate but I don't puff anymore and I hate it when someone sparks a fatty next to me and then gives me dirty look when I light a cig??

[heath]

i don't discriminate.  i smoke whatever you put in front of me....  

[scb]

>>I live south of Buffalo and it is a state-wide law that bans smoking. NYC started it in March and the rest of the state followed in July.<<

really? i live 25 miles north of NYC and smoking is still allowed at places...

[jimmc]

>>I live south of Buffalo and it is a state-wide law that bans smoking. NYC started it in March and the rest of the state followed in July.<<

really? i live 25 miles north of NYC and smoking is still allowed at places...

There are some bars here where you can still smoke, but not legally. It is killing the bar owners. I didnt think it was a local thing since I've been in quite a few different counties lately and all have had a smoking ban. I assumed it was the whole state. huh ??
All I know is I have to go outside or go to certain bars to smoke. Actually I just saw on the news that a Bingo hall just got an exemption to the law lately. Somewhere near Buffalo.
Sorry to turn this into a smoking thread........

[Ed.]

i don't discriminate.  i smoke whatever you put in front of me....  

   i hear ya on that one.

it pisses me off when venues are smoke free, its nearly impossible to smoke a j at them.  i light to smoke a cig when i get done setting up my equipment, it relaxes me and gets me ready for the show.  i dunno, thats just me tho.

for all you smokers....  <-- cartons for only $15, its legit too, i order from there all the time.

[mhibbs]

I have a big and small set of DPAs...use the small ones indoors and the big ones outside (I also have some massive Shures for places like Red Rocks).  If I was only going to get one set, the big DPAs are a good choice...you can use them inside and out.  They're only like $15 each, it isn't like they're expensive.


mitch

[hhf32]

Would the big DPA's affect the sound much indoors??

[John R]

i personally would(did) just get the shures.  might as well go all the way.  like red rocks, telluride blows pretty hard and the dpa's couldn't deal.  the shures can handle anything.

jr

[Nick's Picks]

fwiw, I think the no smoking in public places (bars, restaurants) is a new national law that went info effect jan 1st 2004.

personaly, cig smoke is the major downer of going to shows for me.  I can't stand it.  I smoked buts for 15 years at least, and am now one of those obnoxious reformed smoker types.

as for puffin' the ganj, I guess its the same deal for other non smokers, but at least you dont have 100s of people smoking at one given time w/that (at most shows any way) vs. tobacco.  That shit just rips my throat to shredds.

[jlykos]

For a wide-open place like Bonnarroo (although I have never attended), I like omni caps.  Get yourself a clamp and some longer cables (25' or so) and have one mic on your stand and the other mic clamped to somebody else's stand.  Point the omni mics at the stacks.  Experiment with the split (between 3'-8') and whatever sounds good.  The dpa windscreens mentioned are definitely a good investment, but I did get wind noise with them using omni mics at GOTV last summer when the wind was strongly blowing directly into the mics.  Omni mics are the most resistant to wind and phasing effects, btw.