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JB3 HELP!!!!
« on: February 10, 2005, 08:31:02 PM »
I tried to look at the FAQ but the link seems messed up.

Anyway here is the situation.  Basically what happened was the battery ran out before I was able to hit stop.  The last time I looked at it it was recording fine.  I though that I read in the FAQ that if while recording the battery gets low it stops the recording and shuts it self off.  The recording of the first band is on the drive but the second band, the one I really wanted to get, is not on there.

Did it really just disapear into the ether or there a way for me to get it off of the JB3?

The show was super amazing and the opening act recording sounds really nice.  I'll be super bummed if I didn't get the headliner.

HELP!!!!
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JB3 HELP!!!!
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2005, 08:50:00 PM »
I tried to look at the FAQ but the link seems messed up.

Anyway here is the situation.  Basically what happened was the battery ran out before I was able to hit stop.  The last time I looked at it it was recording fine.  I though that I read in the FAQ that if while recording the battery gets low it stops the recording and shuts it self off.  The recording of the first band is on the drive but the second band, the one I really wanted to get, is not on there.

Did it really just disapear into the ether or there a way for me to get it off of the JB3?

The show was super amazing and the opening act recording sounds really nice.  I'll be super bummed if I didn't get the headliner.

HELP!!!!
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Re: JB3 HELP!!!!
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2005, 10:37:40 PM »
dfid you hook it up to the comp ???

maybe try finding it in playcenter ???

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Re: JB3 HELP!!!!
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2005, 11:41:47 PM »
Here's the corrected link to the JB3 FAQ:

http://www.taperssection.com/index.php?board=14;action=display;threadid=16338

Since the new server change, many of the links do not work.  Just remove the yabbse/ part in the links.  Hope this helps

From the FAQ:
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[180] If I run out of power will the NJB3 shut down gracefully, saving my recording?

Running on internal power, the NJB3 will shut down gracefully, saving your recording.  Running external power, it will not.
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Re: JB3 HELP!!!!
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2005, 11:46:33 PM »
Here's the corrected link to the JB3 FAQ:

http://www.taperssection.com/index.php?board=14;action=display;threadid=16338

Since the new server change, many of the links do not work. Just remove the yabbse/ part in the links. Hope this helps

From the FAQ:
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[180] If I run out of power will the NJB3 shut down gracefully, saving my recording?

Running on internal power, the NJB3 will shut down gracefully, saving your recording. Running external power, it will not.
<<

i have read that before, and i know skalinder does his homework on that stuff, but these things can be quirky and i think ive heard a few times that it DIDNT save the recording when shutting down on internals :) YMMV tho, i have been a lucky, obsessive taper and have plenty of power most times :)
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Re: JB3 HELP!!!!
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2005, 11:49:28 PM »
I figured out how to get to the FAQ too and read that.  I was running off the battery (internal power).

Where is my recording?

Unfortunatley due to it being sort of stealth I couldn't check out the gear until the visiting sound guy left.

I'm bummed.
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Re: JB3 HELP!!!!
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2005, 11:51:54 PM »
I did and it doesn't see it.
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Re: JB3 HELP!!!!
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2005, 11:53:15 PM »
Here's the corrected link to the JB3 FAQ:

http://www.taperssection.com/index.php?board=14;action=display;threadid=16338

Since the new server change, many of the links do not work. Just remove the yabbse/ part in the links. Hope this helps

From the FAQ:
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[180] If I run out of power will the NJB3 shut down gracefully, saving my recording?

Running on internal power, the NJB3 will shut down gracefully, saving your recording. Running external power, it will not.
<<

i have read that before, and i know skalinder does his homework on that stuff, but these things can be quirky and i think ive heard a few times that it DIDNT save the recording when shutting down on internals :) YMMV tho, i have been a lucky, obsessive taper and have plenty of power most times :)

totally obsessive on the power myself but i have done lots of power testng for various resons and have found that most battery drain issues have resulted in the last running recording are toast.  fwiw the data is technically written to the HD already so intensiveData recovery should yield what was recorded to the HD before power failure.

I say chalk it up to the game and move on.  The ears recorded it and that all that is left.

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Re: JB3 HELP!!!!
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2005, 11:59:37 PM »
hmph, sorry to say, but you may be screwed :'(
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Re: JB3 HELP!!!!
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2005, 11:17:10 AM »
I tried to look at the FAQ but the link seems messed up.

Anyway here is the situation.  Basically what happened was the battery ran out before I was able to hit stop.  The last time I looked at it it was recording fine.  I though that I read in the FAQ that if while recording the battery gets low it stops the recording and shuts it self off.  The recording of the first band is on the drive but the second band, the one I really wanted to get, is not on there.

Did it really just disapear into the ether or there a way for me to get it off of the JB3?

The show was super amazing and the opening act recording sounds really nice.  I'll be super bummed if I didn't get the headliner.

HELP!!!!


Just out of curiosity, were you running the stock internal battery(s)?  Or did you use some sort of external power supply? 
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Re: JB3 HELP!!!!
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2005, 11:20:54 AM »
Try going into rescue mode and do a "Clean Up" - it cant hurt, and might find the track and add it when it rebuilds the list...

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Re: JB3 HELP!!!!
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2005, 11:31:01 AM »
I was running on the internal battery and I will try the clean up.  I wish I could run Norton's Un-erase on it.  Oh well.

I just bummed because it was one of the best shows I've seen in a long time.  I know there was another taper there but he was stealthing it in the crowd.
Hopefully his turned out decent.
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Re: JB3 HELP!!!!
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2005, 11:32:26 AM »
I did all the initial testing on shutdown with internal vs. external power sources.  I only tested firmware 1.32.02  It always shut down properly with internal batteries but I did get caught once in a different way...

If you pause a recording and then press play again, it resumes recording - it just appends to the same track.
If you are recording and press 'stop', it will close the track and then return to a 'record pause' mode.
From here, if you hold the play button it will start recording a new track, but if you just press play quickly, it will simply play back the previously recorded track, then go into idle, then shut down.

Of course after the fact you can't really tell what happened.  There was a time I did this, then later glanced down and realized it was playing back the opening act instead of recording the headliner! 

So 2 questions:
Did you have some battery power left when you got home and powered it up?
Did you press stop between sets or anything like that?

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Re: JB3 HELP!!!!
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2005, 02:54:36 PM »

So 2 questions:
Did you have some battery power left when you got home and powered it up?
Did you press stop between sets or anything like that?


I was able to power up the JB3 once I got to my car.  That is when I first noticed that the recording wasn't on there.  The battery display was empty so I turned it back off.

I did stop the recording after the first band.  Then I hit the scroll wheel I picked 'start new recording.'
Durning the time the headliner was setting up it powered it self off.  I hit the power button and it started a new recording.  I watched it long enough to see that it was actually recording. 
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