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Title: "mic-in" vs. "line-in"...
Post by: fandelive on March 14, 2004, 03:13:50 AM
hello,
I'm a MD taper. I recently purchased a pair of binaural mics and a battery box with bass roll-off filter from Soundprofessionals.

I browsed many many web pages and messageboards. All the information that I could find was to plug my mics and battery box in the "line-in" input when recording a loud concert.

I can't understand it, because I have to set my recording level to (for example using "line-in" input) 15 or 20 over 30, which brings me logically more shuffle noise.
I recently tired to record with the mics plugged in the "mic-in" input. I was surprised because the bass roll-off filter worked as well.

In a loud concert, (plugged in the "mic-in" input) I will have to set the recording level to 05 or less over 30 and will get less shuffle noise.

Because you get less shuffle noise when your recording level is set to 1 or 2 than 20 or 25, right?
I mean, what is important is not to exceed -4dB. So...  

Can someone here explain why I should not use "mic-in" input?
Does it affect the sound quality with pops and clicks because the preamp of my MD is poor?

thanks in advance.
greetings
Fandelive


Title: Re:"mic-in" vs. "line-in"...
Post by: C.Clark on March 14, 2004, 03:31:35 AM
i would be hesitant to go mic in on a minidisc player, there mic preamps are very poor and clip easily.  i'd just stick with the line in, its your best bet
Title: Re:"mic-in" vs. "line-in"...
Post by: C.Clark on March 14, 2004, 03:31:52 AM
i would be hesitant to go mic in on a minidisc player, there mic preamps are very poor and clip easily.  i'd just stick with the line in, its your best bet
Title: Re:"mic-in" vs. "line-in"...
Post by: Sean Gallemore on March 14, 2004, 05:23:58 AM
the crappy sound you will get from the MD preamp will be worse than the "shuffle noise" from the line-in, IMNSHO
Title: Re:"mic-in" vs. "line-in"...
Post by: dklein on March 14, 2004, 08:03:05 PM
What is "shuffle noise" ?

And yes, your bass rolloff is rendered ineffective when using line input.

Line input is generally quieter but you only use it if you have enough signal to drive the levels properly.  If you don't, going mic-in with a slightly noisy preamp will give you better results than recording lin-in and having to boost it later with software.

The other thing is that mic-in provides 'plug-in power' which is necessary for some mics, but not yours if you're running a battery box.
Title: Re:"mic-in" vs. "line-in"...
Post by: George on March 14, 2004, 08:49:30 PM
And yes, your bass rolloff is rendered ineffective when using line input.

Really?  I've used different levels of bass rolloff via the line in on my MD recorder and dat and have noticed the difference when going between 160Hz and 195Hz in various venues.  Am i missing something?   ???
Title: Re:"mic-in" vs. "line-in"...
Post by: dklein on March 15, 2004, 11:37:48 PM
I think you're hearing the difference of the venue.  Going from 160 to 195 ain't gonna make that much difference even when it's in mic-in.

Try it with software eq to get a feel - you should drop at 6dB/octave to copy the slope of your battery box.
e.g. flat at 160, down 6db at 80 Hz

Look up the input impedances for your md on both inputs and post back.