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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2023, 03:36:59 AM »
Using 2.2.1 here and have never had a issue in 10+ years.
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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2023, 11:02:31 AM »
It would be more helpful if you told us exactly what the security problems amount to. I have used it for 15 years and have never had any issues.

It's very clear if you follow the link.
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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2023, 12:09:26 PM »
It would be more helpful if you told us exactly what the security problems amount to. I have used it for 15 years and have never had any issues.

It's very clear if you follow the link.

To be fair, that content is a bit technical. That said, you can all bury your heads in the sand and say it is working fine for you, but it simply is a security issue for you. Will you be/have you been impacted? No idea, but do you want to take that chance when there are alternatives that have been recommended by others in the community? Use some logic here. You are using a version that is 12 years old, a product that exposes you and your computer to the internet. Why do you want to take that chance?
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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2023, 07:17:42 PM »
It would be more helpful if you told us exactly what the security problems amount to. I have used it for 15 years and have never had any issues.

It's very clear if you follow the link.

To be fair, that content is a bit technical. That said, you can all bury your heads in the sand and say it is working fine for you, but it simply is a security issue for you. Will you be/have you been impacted? No idea, but do you want to take that chance when there are alternatives that have been recommended by others in the community? Use some logic here. You are using a version that is 12 years old, a product that exposes you and your computer to the internet. Why do you want to take that chance?

Well said. I'm really frustrated with the people in this thread burying their heads in the sand.

Yes, the link I posted is technical, but I was trying to show the accumulation of CVEs reported over the years rather than post a few isolated articles. If people want the non-technical descriptions, just search for "utorrent vulnerability" and read the dozens of articles that pop up. Most of those articles are a few years old now, but you raise an excellent point that people are advocating use of a 12-year old version of software, which is highly dangerous even if there weren't these serious reported vulnerabilities. And torrenting is somewhat risky to start with. You need to open a special port on your computer, allow a firewall exception, and trust that your torrent software isn't going to let anything stray outside of the boundaries that have been set.

Well, older versions of uTorrent have been proven to not be safe. I don't know what more you need to hear in order to stop using it.

Anyone that responds to this with "yeah, but I'm really careful" - You may actually just be lucky. Don't complain here when you get infected with something nasty.  Use up-to-date, and preferably open-source software.
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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2023, 09:32:48 PM »
It would be more helpful if you told us exactly what the security problems amount to. I have used it for 15 years and have never had any issues.

It's very clear if you follow the link.

To be fair, that content is a bit technical. That said, you can all bury your heads in the sand and say it is working fine for you, but it simply is a security issue for you. Will you be/have you been impacted? No idea, but do you want to take that chance when there are alternatives that have been recommended by others in the community? Use some logic here. You are using a version that is 12 years old, a product that exposes you and your computer to the internet. Why do you want to take that chance?

Well said. I'm really frustrated with the people in this thread burying their heads in the sand.

Yes, the link I posted is technical, but I was trying to show the accumulation of CVEs reported over the years rather than post a few isolated articles. If people want the non-technical descriptions, just search for "utorrent vulnerability" and read the dozens of articles that pop up. Most of those articles are a few years old now, but you raise an excellent point that people are advocating use of a 12-year old version of software, which is highly dangerous even if there weren't these serious reported vulnerabilities. And torrenting is somewhat risky to start with. You need to open a special port on your computer, allow a firewall exception, and trust that your torrent software isn't going to let anything stray outside of the boundaries that have been set.

Well, older versions of uTorrent have been proven to not be safe. I don't know what more you need to hear in order to stop using it.

Anyone that responds to this with "yeah, but I'm really careful" - You may actually just be lucky. Don't complain here when you get infected with something nasty.  Use up-to-date, and preferably open-source software.

As someone else pointed out, the page you linked says absolutely nothing about utorrent 2.2.1, so either the page was too technical for you to understand as well, or you're privy to some information you're not providing to us.

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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2023, 01:18:11 AM »
Some trackers don't allow versions newer than 2.2.1, and for good reason.
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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2023, 09:46:23 AM »
Some trackers don't allow versions newer than 2.2.1, and for good reason.

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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2023, 11:28:14 AM »
It would be more helpful if you told us exactly what the security problems amount to. I have used it for 15 years and have never had any issues.

It's very clear if you follow the link.

To be fair, that content is a bit technical. That said, you can all bury your heads in the sand and say it is working fine for you, but it simply is a security issue for you. Will you be/have you been impacted? No idea, but do you want to take that chance when there are alternatives that have been recommended by others in the community? Use some logic here. You are using a version that is 12 years old, a product that exposes you and your computer to the internet. Why do you want to take that chance?

Well said. I'm really frustrated with the people in this thread burying their heads in the sand.

Yes, the link I posted is technical, but I was trying to show the accumulation of CVEs reported over the years rather than post a few isolated articles. If people want the non-technical descriptions, just search for "utorrent vulnerability" and read the dozens of articles that pop up. Most of those articles are a few years old now, but you raise an excellent point that people are advocating use of a 12-year old version of software, which is highly dangerous even if there weren't these serious reported vulnerabilities. And torrenting is somewhat risky to start with. You need to open a special port on your computer, allow a firewall exception, and trust that your torrent software isn't going to let anything stray outside of the boundaries that have been set.

Well, older versions of uTorrent have been proven to not be safe. I don't know what more you need to hear in order to stop using it.

Anyone that responds to this with "yeah, but I'm really careful" - You may actually just be lucky. Don't complain here when you get infected with something nasty.  Use up-to-date, and preferably open-source software.

As someone else pointed out, the page you linked says absolutely nothing about utorrent 2.2.1, so either the page was too technical for you to understand as well, or you're privy to some information you're not providing to us.

Ah, I think I understand your confusion. You saw Version 3.x and Version 2.0 and thought those were talking about uTorrent versions. Not the case: Those are two different versions of the Common Vulnerability Scoring System as detailed on this page under Severity.

The CVE pages actually do not specifically mention any uTorrent version, but these articles referencing some of the CVEs are all recommending updating to the latest version, which at the time of their publication was 3.5. So I think it's safe to assume 2.2.1 is NOT SAFE, and I can't believe I still need to convince people that running software of this type that is so out of date is a big risk.

https://www.techradar.com/news/utorrent-vulnerabilities-leave-users-at-risk-of-hacking-and-snooping
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/utorrent-client-affected-by-some-pretty-severe-security-flaws/
https://threatpost.com/utorrent-users-warned-of-remote-code-execution-vulnerability/130030/
https://hothardware.com/news/utorrent-exploit-allows-hackers-remotely-control-your-pc
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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2023, 11:58:13 AM »
My head is deeply buried in the sand, and for the 2-3x a year I use 2.2.1 here and have never had a issue in 10+ years. 
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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2023, 01:05:25 PM »
Some trackers don't allow versions newer than 2.2.1, and for good reason.

again!!

https://www.qbittorrent.org

I've tried it, just couldn't get used to it. Like I said, I've never had an issue with 2.2.1, it does what I need and nothing more, and I've never had any security issues in 10+ years.
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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2023, 01:06:27 PM »
Some trackers don't allow versions newer than 2.2.1, and for good reason.

again!!

https://www.qbittorrent.org

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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2023, 01:13:53 PM »
Zero issues with ram here...
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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2023, 01:54:20 PM »
So I guess what we've discovered in this thread is people use different clients for different reasons, and there's really no wrong answer.
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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2023, 01:55:57 PM »
 :(

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Re: Which Torrent client for Windows?
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2023, 04:21:12 PM »
:(

I was trying to help, but it's clear my help isn't being well received so I'm going to back away here. Peace, everyone.

Yep, I started to write a response earlier today and decided that I had already conveyed reasonable information on the topic and for some reason it was being ignored. Oh well, I tried to help out.
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