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Title: what is a good recording unit?
Post by: slapshot on February 26, 2009, 11:05:40 PM
right now i have  a creative nomad jukebox and i am having problems getting to to connect it to my computer so i end up having to play the recordings and using a mini to min cable to connect it to my computer and i basically ruins any audio quality i have i am considering just buying something else. i was just wondering if you guys had some good suggestions. right now i am considering  buying a cheap old laptop and loading audacity on it and just lining it straight from my preamp i would like to stay digital and inexpensive. any help would be greatly appreciated also i have tried notmad manager but it recently stoped working and the customer service guys will not respond to my emails thanks in advance
Title: Re: what is a good recording unit?
Post by: setboy on February 26, 2009, 11:21:58 PM
what do you count as "inexpensive"?
Title: Re: what is a good recording unit?
Post by: Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B) on February 26, 2009, 11:27:52 PM
Does your preamp have a digital output?

If so...I would get an MicroTrack II

If not...a Edirol R-09HR.

Both use flash cards as memory. You will never have to worry about transfering. I'm pretty sure both will show up as a drive (no need to install drivers). Even if they don't you can use a card reader and don't even have to hook the recorder directly to your computer.
Title: Re: what is a good recording unit?
Post by: slapshot on February 26, 2009, 11:38:27 PM
what do you count as "inexpensive"?

i can barely afford $100 dollars right now
Title: Re: what is a good recording unit?
Post by: su6oxone on February 27, 2009, 12:15:40 AM
i can barely afford $100 dollars right now

That really puts almost everything out of reach... Maybe you could find a used iriver h120 on ebay for about that much.
Title: Re: what is a good recording unit?
Post by: Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B) on February 27, 2009, 01:28:43 AM
You might want to try uninstalling and re-installing the nomad drivers and software.

Seems like it just goes wacko every once in a while.

Title: Re: what is a good recording unit?
Post by: sunjan on February 27, 2009, 04:43:26 AM
You might want to try uninstalling and re-installing the nomad drivers and software.

Seems like it just goes wacko every once in a while.

Yeah, that usually helps. I jumped through a lot of hoops trying to get Windows to recognize the JB3. Frustrating - I know!
Wiping all the drivers and software does it, plus connecting/disconnecting the firewire cable and removing any other FW units. Notmad manager is good, once you get it to work.

Regarding a replacement bit bucket: what pre are you running? I assume you've been feeding the JB3 with digi?

If you're really on a shoestring budget, pick up a used Hi-MD recorder on ebay. With a bit of luck, you can grab the older models for $60 or so. Most of the sellers are in Europe, but if you're patient you can find something closer to you. One example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260367570248

Check my overview of the going rates for each model, here:
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,109256.msg1459621.html#msg1459621
Title: Re: what is a good recording unit?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on February 27, 2009, 09:15:10 AM
I'm with Mike B.  Instead of buying a new recorder -- assuming the Jukebox otherwise works for you -- put some more time in trying to fix the connectivity problem you're having.  Try to isolate the problem.  Un- and re-install the drivers.  Try a different, known-good cable.  Use a different, known-good USB/firewire port.  Connect to a different computer.  Do it with the Jukebox on battery power, then try it with the wallwart plugged in.

If you're working with a JB3 and having trouble finding the drivers, they're on TS (whether or not they're the latest and greatest drivers, firmware, etc., I don't know, but they always worked for me):

http://www.taperssection.com/reference/software/jb3/

Then come back and let us know precisely what you've tried and what the results were, and we'll see if we can help further.
Title: Re: what is a good recording unit?
Post by: EarlyMorningRain on February 27, 2009, 10:57:04 AM
add another person for working on fixing the (computer) drivers issue you are facing with the JB3. They can be a pain, but they do work. Please check out that link Brian posted, maybe all you need the WHQL driver ??

But if you are really dead set on buying something else, and sticking at/around the $100 mark (which really does limit your choices), then I'd have to suggest starting looking for used iRivers in the yard sale section, either the H120/H140 or the H320/H340 models. I'd consider selling my H320 to you actually, however it's my only portable that plays flacs....  :)
Title: Re: what is a good recording unit?
Post by: slapshot on February 28, 2009, 12:49:22 AM
thanks for all the help. i actually managed to get an old cheap laptop for 100 bucks, and i put audacity on it. now my recordings sound much better. i just got home from recording a hardcore show and i no longer have the hassle of editing the 15 min tracks together. if any one is interested in my old nomad jukebox one let me know i took great care of it but i am sick of the connectivity problems. im still going to miss it but the laptop i found better suits my needs.
Title: Re: what is a good recording unit?
Post by: mikesalvo on February 28, 2009, 01:43:02 AM
if youre still in the running for a deck, I picked up an iRiver (used to have a JB3) a few months ago, and never looked back. Assuming you have a pre (which Im not sure you do or not) this deck is great. 20 GB HD and with a good batt can run for a LONG time compared to the JB3. Also, the batts are easier to find and cheaper...a lil more difficult to install, but cheaper and easier to find...