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Title: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: mermentaper on January 06, 2005, 07:04:58 PM
I've been running my V3 with one of the Wal-Mart Li-ion batteries for the past few months. I couldn't figure out why when I would charge the battery right after a show, it would be down at least one bar (dot) when I went to run it a week later. Turned out it was because I was leaving it plugged in to the Lunatec and it was draining, since I started pulling the Lunatec connection after the show it has held charge just fine.

Steve
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: dnsacks on January 06, 2005, 07:39:47 PM
store the battery in the fridge between shows, seriously, lithium ion batteries will last longer and maintain their full capacity longer if stored in a cold place.
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: Swampy on January 06, 2005, 10:56:10 PM
store the battery in the fridge between shows, seriously, lithium ion batteries will last longer and maintain their full capacity longer if stored in a cold place.
Really? thats pretty interseting. cool.
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: phrazelle on January 12, 2005, 03:30:42 PM
store the battery in the fridge between shows, seriously, lithium ion batteries will last longer and maintain their full capacity longer if stored in a cold place.
Really? thats pretty interseting. cool.

pun intended?  ;)
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: caymanreview on January 12, 2005, 05:39:20 PM
store the battery in the fridge between shows, seriously, lithium ion batteries will last longer and maintain their full capacity longer if stored in a cold place.
Really? thats pretty interseting. cool.

i think a lithium battery reguarly drains at 1% a day, but when stored in the fridge the drain is quite a bit slower
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: dnsacks on January 12, 2005, 05:45:14 PM
The articles I've read indicate that time is also an enemy of lithium ion batteries -- their capacity will decrease over time (whether used or not).  The articles stated that storing lithium ion batteries in a fridge will reduce the effects time has on these batteries.

Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: caymanreview on January 12, 2005, 05:45:56 PM
that is good to know!
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: mermentaper on January 12, 2005, 07:15:46 PM
just wanted to reinforce that in my case the drain was not (or not solely) due to normal charge loss while sitting around, it didn't drop anywhere near as much when I stopped leaving it plugged in to the V3.

Steve
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: John R on January 16, 2005, 08:59:20 AM
great battery primer.  camera based, but answers many portable power questions.

http://www.shortcourses.com/choosing/batteries/13.htm

jr
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: Ed. on January 19, 2005, 03:50:17 AM
roommate: "what are those square silver things in the fridge?"
me: "they're batteries"
roommate: "cool, can i eat them?"
me: "i wouldn't"

;D
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: ts on January 20, 2005, 09:58:27 AM
Oh shit. I have mine in the freezer!
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: keepongoin on January 20, 2005, 10:22:51 AM
roommate: "what are those square silver things in the fridge?"
me: "they're batteries"
roommate: "cool, can i eat them?"
me: "i wouldn't"

;D

I ate a lava lamp once.  It wasn't lava.
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: Ed. on January 21, 2005, 12:33:59 AM
haha
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: phrazelle on January 21, 2005, 10:10:54 AM
I thought this was interesting.  It came from the shortcourses.com 
"Confused?  In one place you read that batteries retain their charge longer when stored in a cold freezer, and in another place you read that you need to keep them warm to prolong their charge. What gives? Well if you think about batteries as small chemical engines, it all makes sense. When batteries are cold or frozen their chemical reactions slow down and the batteries will keep their stored charge longer. However, if you try to use the batteries when they are cold, there isn't enough of a chemical reaction to generate the power you need. Warming them up speeds up the reaction and gives you more power to draw on."

Something to think about before using the cold ones
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: phrazelle on January 21, 2005, 10:14:42 AM
This is also from the same site.....good info

" Recycling batteries
According to the EPA, each year over 2 billion used batteries are disposed into solid waste facilities in the United States. This constitutes 88% of the highly toxic mercury and 54% of the cadmium deposited into our landfills. Many kinds of batteries, like those used in digital cameras, can be recycled instead of thrown away. When they wear out, try to take them back to the store where you bought them. Many stores collect the used batteries and then send them to a factory to be recycled. NiCad batteries use Cadmium, a highly toxic heavy metal, that can damage the environment if not disposed of properly. (They should be recycled; not discarded). NiMH (Nickel Metal Hydride) batteries are the most environmentally friendly batteries because they are made from non-toxic metals."
Title: Re: watch for V3 battery drain
Post by: John R on January 23, 2005, 10:34:10 AM
This is also from the same site.....good info

" Recycling batteries
According to the EPA, each year over 2 billion used batteries are disposed into solid waste facilities in the United States. This constitutes 88% of the highly toxic mercury and 54% of the cadmium deposited into our landfills. They should be recycled; not discarded. NiMH (Nickel Metal Hydride) batteries are the most environmentally friendly batteries because they are made from non-toxic metals."

that's what kiils me when i see tapers using non rechargeable batteries and they're lying all over the section at the end of the show/fest.  destined for the landfill :(