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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: airbladder on August 18, 2003, 05:16:46 PM
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I am thinking about getting an ad1000. Now I run MBHO 603/ka200n>MP-2>ADC-20>DA-P1. Would it be worth running the MP-2 in front of the AD1K? My guess is that I should get rid of the MP-2 and run the pre in the AD1K. What do you think?
Thanks,Ed
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Definately run the ad1k pre...it's good enough, and sounds good with the ad1k. I can dig up some samples, or there are some on archive when i ran mbho->ad1k
Daryan
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or you could do some comps when you get the 1k and decide for yourself :)
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just run the adk1, no need to haul more gear than you need.
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or spend a lot less and get a ua5, joew makes very nice tapes with that rig.
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Yeah, I have a buddy that runs MBHO 603As > UA5, and his tapes smoke. His is unmodified, but I have a feeling that the presence mod would just be kickass. ;)
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or hang on to the mp-2 for when the ad1000 craps the bed.... and it will. If you are mid show and it loses sync, you'll need something else to power the mics. I've seen it happen and had it happen to me!
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or sell the Mp-2 and pick up a mini-me, those are going used in the 1k or sometimes less range and would sound sweet with the mega bitch hoes. ;D
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i would just run the ad1k. a really warm sound to that box IMO. should be a nice complement to those mics.
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or hang on to the mp-2 for when the ad1000 craps the bed.... and it will. If you are mid show and it loses sync, you'll need something else to power the mics. I've seen it happen and had it happen to me!
well i just wanted to chime in here... i own a pair of MBHO's (603a/200 also have the ka100dk omni's)
I run mbhos>mp2>ad2k+>D8. Used to be mp2>p1 but sold the p1 and picked up the ad2k about 4 months ago.
Honestly, i think the mp2 pre perfectly accents the mbho's. apogee is nice, but sure hard to get parts/repairs on those old ad1000's. main reason i never bought one.
i have toyed with the mini-me and although it's a great unit, i wouldnt buy one. I ran mbho>minime using the 48v from the minime at hi-sierra this year because the 2k was out of comission.
many times, i like to STEALTH. the ad1k, minime, ad2k even v3 are all units that would make stealthing difficult - especially a venue that's hard to sneek stuff in. the mp2 can be crotched pretty easily.
when i stealth, i run mbho ka200n>603>mp2>d8
*(ran that on wed. night at the hollywood bowl for mmw/scofield/roy hargrove)
anyway, that brings us back to the mp2/ad1k question....
I would do some comparisons, but i think you'll find it's not worth the extra battery power or hassle to run mp2>ad1k versus just straight ad1k with the preamp. i've run that combo before in the past and it's sounded excellent (i borrowed j. schmidt's ad1000 at bisco kahunaville in 2001)
Hold onto that mp2 if you can - from what i heard they were discontinued to allow sound devices more production space for their newer units like usb pre and the new 722hd recorder that will be coming out...
i just don't think that purchasing an ad1000 at this point is the greatest idea - seeing as how they are so difficult to fix if something goes wrong... i would go with something like the minime or the v3.
or, if you can afford it, run the mp2 and get an ad2k+ and run mp2>ad2k+...
i hope some of my rambling comments helped in some way....
peace,
ian stone
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or give the mp-2 to me to use and then I'll give it back when the ad1000 shits on you ;D
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What are the other options with the MBHO mics?
The V2?
W-Mod UA-5?
I would imagine the DMIC-20 is a little to brittle sounding for those mics.
I'm considering moving to the MBHO's from my Okatva MC012's.
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What are the other options with the MBHO mics?
The V2?
W-Mod UA-5?
I would imagine the DMIC-20 is a little to brittle sounding for those mics.
I'm considering moving to the MBHO's from my Okatva MC012's.
I really liked my V2 > modSBM-1 combo. I, too, would guess the DMIC is a bit to bright to pair with the already bright MBHOs. Haven't heard a wmod UA-5 with the MBHOs yet.
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Calico, if you want some MBHO's I am still trying to sell my buddies pair that I use to own, can save some bucks
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I've got a line on a cheap pair of the MBHO's already. I just don't have a good pre-amp. I use the Denecke PS-2 and a homebrew pre-amp with my Octava's now.
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I've got a line on a cheap pair of the MBHO's already. I just don't have a good pre-amp. I use the Denecke PS-2 and a homebrew pre-amp with my Octava's now.
I ran MBHO > PS2 > line transformer > (modSBM-1 added later) > D100 for a while and really liked the results. Go for it!
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What are the other options with the MBHO mics?
The V2?
W-Mod UA-5?
I would imagine the DMIC-20 is a little to brittle sounding for those mics.
I'm considering moving to the MBHO's from my Okatva MC012's.
I have not heard this combination myself, but I will bet that the MBHOs sound good going MP-2 > modSBM. That is a dark pre/ad combination and would bring out the bass quite nicely in the MBHOs which I find lacking in most situations. Also makes the perfect stealth setup if that is your bag.
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now, its my ears, but I started with the mp-2,modsbm-1 with the MBHO's, didn't care for it, I liked the V2/modsbm-1 combo better, but I also love the grace sound.
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i use 603/Ka 200 with a V2> ad-500> m1 and I think they complement the mbho's well.. bright but not harsh, bassy but but not bloated.IMO.
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Here's a very nice recording done with 603/ka200s>mp2>(mod)SBM1:
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=4684&from=dbetreeDetails
In fact it was while I was doing the DAT transfer on this show I decided to run this combo myself...it really does sound that good.