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Offline GrandMasterMark

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What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« on: April 23, 2008, 05:37:09 PM »
Long story short:

I am a n00b.

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Bought a new in the box iriver h120 on ebay.

Question: What are the advantages of "RockBoxing" the iriver rather than just using the existing programing?
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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2008, 06:20:07 PM »
Rockbox allows for more control and more options.  If you plan on recording you need Rockbox.  The original firmware sucks for recording.  You can't change levels while recording.
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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 09:52:09 AM »
Original Firmware iRiver = Ford Pinto
Rockboxed iRiver = Ferrari Testarossa

(i.e. Tons more features, performance, capabilities, etc. with Rockbox)
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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2008, 11:27:40 AM »
Quote from: GrandMasterMark on April 23, 2008, 05:37:09 PM
Bought a new in the box iriver h120 on ebay.
Question: What are the advantages of "RockBoxing" the iriver rather than just using the existing programing?

+T for joining the Iriver camp! ;-)

The main and crucial reason for rockboxing the Iriver is that digital artefacts occured when you record with the stock firmware.
Before Rockbox, no serious taper used the Iriver, because of that reason.

Apart from fixing that huge issue, you get a lot of other goodies:
 - better mic powering if you go mic-in.
 - better battery life
 - better meters (+ histogram, right/left balance overview if you add REP)
 - see how much battery life and HDD space you have left while recording
 - much easier to navigate, more logical menues and better control over the settings
 - option to replace the HDD with CF!
 - geeky freeware games that you can play while on the bus/train ;-)
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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2008, 01:21:53 PM »
Quote from: sunjan on April 24, 2008, 11:27:40 AM
Quote from: GrandMasterMark on April 23, 2008, 05:37:09 PM
Bought a new in the box iriver h120 on ebay.
Question: What are the advantages of "RockBoxing" the iriver rather than just using the existing programing?

+T for joining the Iriver camp! ;-)

The main and crucial reason for rockboxing the Iriver is that digital artefacts occured when you record with the stock firmware.
Before Rockbox, no serious taper used the Iriver, because of that reason.

Apart from fixing that huge issue, you get a lot of other goodies:
 - better mic powering if you go mic-in.
 - better battery life
 - better meters (+ histogram, right/left balance overview if you add REP)
 - see how much battery life and HDD space you have left while recording
 - much easier to navigate, more logical menues and better control over the settings
 - option to replace the HDD with CF!
 - geeky freeware games that you can play while on the bus/train ;-)


Dude! I like you! You always have the right answers and you deliver them in a concise manner. You ROCK!

I would give you +t's but I am not at that stage yet.

Keep up the good work!

Should have the H120 today or tomorrow. Found the instructions for the RockBox conversion so I will be attempting that soon. Wish me luck.
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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2008, 01:35:34 PM »
Unfortunately, the iriver's that have appeared on ebay are NOT new, they seem to be from the same batch that Overstock got.  They are refurbs at best, with no case or remote.
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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2008, 07:14:08 PM »
I'm in the same boat. A friend gave me his old iRiver. What do I need to do to download / upload the firmware to the machine? any other tips? i'm sure it will be clear when I download the rockbox.
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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2008, 03:20:47 AM »
I'm convinced that the information found in the rockbox manual, rockbox wiki and taperssection iriver FAQ is more than enough to get you going... Please take some time to read, it took a lot more time to write it all down ;)
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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2008, 04:48:18 AM »
Got an iRiver iHP120 via an auction on Ebay yesterday night. Will give a try to the Rockbox upgrade as soon as I will get it. Should be anytime next week.

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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 10:18:56 AM »
Quote from: GrandMasterMark on April 24, 2008, 01:21:53 PM
Dude! I like you! You always have the right answers and you deliver them in a concise manner. You ROCK!

I would give you +t's but I am not at that stage yet.

Keep up the good work!

Should have the H120 today or tomorrow. Found the instructions for the RockBox conversion so I will be attempting that soon. Wish me luck.

Thanks man, no sweat! Keep on writing here, by 50 posts you'll be able to T+ us folks...
Rockboxing is a breeze, very straightforward if you follow the instructions. You can't screw up anything, so just try again until the firmware sits there!
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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2008, 12:21:08 AM »
Quote from: deadhoarse on April 24, 2008, 01:35:34 PM
Unfortunately, the iriver's that have appeared on ebay are NOT new, they seem to be from the same batch that Overstock got.  They are refurbs at best, with no case or remote.

How did they find that out?  Did someone buy one and get it already?  Or did someone call iriver?  This bums me out because I was thinking of buying one. :(
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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2008, 12:27:36 AM »
Got mine yesterday. I am happy with the purchase. Not marked as a refurb in any way. New condition. Plain wrap box with iriver identification. Box included:

iriver h120
charger
usb cable
ear buds

Manual is available online in several languages

Plan on doing the RockBox upgrade tonight!
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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2008, 12:45:21 AM »
Good luck with the rockbox!  I've heard from friends that it's pretty easy to do.
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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2008, 12:52:58 AM »
Quote from: hypnotoad on April 26, 2008, 12:21:08 AM

How did they find that out?  Did someone buy one and get it already?  Or did someone call iriver?  This bums me out because I was thinking of buying one. :(

I bought one and ran a disk scan on it. I found a whole collection of deleted mp3's.  I argued over missing accessories (no charger), and they wound up sending me another iriver (with charger this time). That one too had deleted mp3's on it.
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Re: What are the advantages of Rock Box?
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2008, 12:56:21 AM »
Ah man that is a bummer, especially if the mp3s they left on it were crappy. hahaha.  Kind of like the story I read about a Father trying to sue Best Buy for a ipod he bought his kid.  It was wrapped up as new but then when they turned it on they found it was full of porn  .  At least they sent you a new one with the charger to try and make up for it.  Good for you.

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