Topic: M148 vs. V3 w/ km140's

[Big Perm]

has any run a comparison with 140's using oade's 148 vs. a V3.  I have been running a 148 since 2001 and am thinking of getting a V3, but am wondering others opinions of the set-up
thx
BP

[Brian Skalinder]

Depends in part on the ADC used.  What ADC do you use today with the M148?  Are you considering using the V3 purely as a preamp, and maintaining your current ADC?  Or are you considering replacing both your M148 + ADC with the V3 as both preamp and ADC?

[Big Perm]

just purchased apogee mme, have been going directly into PMD671.  I will use V3 for pre only
bp

[thekittycatt]

I will use V3 for pre only
bp

Have you thought about a V2?

[Big Perm]

tell me more???
no i have not,  i have just started playing with the idea of switching from the 148
bp

[Brian Skalinder]

My standard spiel:  Before changing gear, I personally find it important to consider the sonic characteristics I do and do not like in my current gear, then seek out new gear that preserves the sonic characteristics I prefer while (hopefully) improving (or removing) those I do not.

Is there anything particular about the sound you're achieving with 140s > M148 > MiniMe that you do or do not like?  That you do not hear but would like to hear?

[thekittycatt]

tell me more???
no i have not,  i have just started playing with the idea of switching from the 148
bp

V2 is a pre only.  It does not have the ADC like the V3.  The V2 is about $200-300 cheaper used.  The V3 has better meters lights for checking your levels.  Some think the V2 pre sounds better.  Some think the V3 pre sounds better.  Some think they sound the same.  It you want to come to Colorado, we can do some testing.

edit:  I have 140's, a V2 and, aV3

[nedstruzz]

I used to run 140's>V2 and was always happy with the results.  Never ran a 148 so can't comment.

[greenone]

I have a V2 I'm considering selling if you're interested: http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,123847.0.html

[Big Perm]

good advice,
the MME should be here tomorrow, so I want to run the km140>m148>mme>pmd671 for a couple of shows. Get a feel for up close vs. further back then I can answer the question posted about what am I missing and/or what do I not like.
still might pick up a  V2 or V3 to run comparisons if I find a killer deal
thx all
bp

[SmokinJoe]

Lynchie owned 140's, an m148, and a V3, at least for a while.  He probably has an opinion for you.

[thekittycatt]

Lynchie owned 140's, an m148, and a V3, at least for a while.  He probably has an opinion for you.

I would get some off his recordings and compare which one you like.

[Nick's Picks]

I have run all of the above.

my ears prefer 140 > v2 or v3 > any old A/D converter (V3 esp.)
but km150>MME is SICK, using the stock preamps in the Apogee.

[Big Perm]

What was the biggest difference you could hear when running v2 vs 148
thx
bp

[Nick's Picks]

neumann > v2 was crystal clear and detailed.  nice low end (tight and fast), and that lovely neumann shimmer.
neumann > 148 (and this was with 140s), was a little thick sounding to me.  it just didn't compliment the sound of the neumanns.  I'm sure it would sound better w/the ak50 caps, or an ak40/20 M-S rig.

140>248 sounds good too.  I've got a shit load of stuff on the archive w/that combo.  check out some STS9 pulls from 2005 that I made w/this combo if you care to.