Topic: How do you pronounce Schoeps model names?

[acidjack]

Kind of a dumb question I guess, but it has been bothering me of late.

Normally, with something prefaced with "MK" I think of that as being short for "Mark".  Meaning Schoeps MK4 would be "Schoeps Mark 4's"

But I believe MK in the Schoeps names is actually an acronym, so it may not be accurate to call them "Mark".

What convention do most people use?

[leehookem]

Mark

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individual letters; on the assumption that it's an acronym or abbreviation.

[DSatz]

Schoeps introduced the MK 2, the MK 3, the MK 4 and some other capsule types all at the same time decades ago. "MK" definitely doesn't stand for "Mark"--if Schoeps had named their products on that basis, the MK 3 would have been the improved replacement for the MK 2 and then the MK 4 would have superseded the MK 3, etc., but it's nothing like that.

So just say the letters. Together they stand for the German word for "microphone capsule" (Mikrofonkapsel).

--best regards

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

"see-em-see six, em-kay four" = cmc6/mk4

IMO...

Terry

[adrianf74]

"see-em-see six, em-kay four" = cmc6/mk4

What he said.

[F.O.Bean]

"see-em-see six, em-kay four" = cmc6/mk4

What he said.

[tim in jersey]

"see-em-see six, em-kay four" = cmc6/mk4

IMO...

Terry

I love my Shoappes.

[F.O.Bean]

The correct way to say Schoeps is EXPENSIVE AS HELL

[tim in jersey]

The correct way to say Schoeps is EXPENSIVE AS HELL

It's pronounced S-L-U-T.

[gkatz]

are they actually pronounced "sheps,"?  I always thought it was something along the lines of "shoops"

The correct way to say Schoeps is EXPENSIVE AS HELL

lol that works too

[hi and lo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KDEIyQDg4A

Decent video with Helmut Wittek of Schoeps talking. Should clear up anything that DSatz did not.

[aaronji]

And here (from DSatz a few years back):  http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=100660.msg1341132#msg1341132

[F.O.Bean]

are they actually pronounced "sheps,"?  I always thought it was something along the lines of "shoops"

The correct way to say Schoeps is EXPENSIVE AS HELL

lol that works too

I pronounce them as "Shopes"

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

And here (from DSatz a few years back):  http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=100660.msg1341132#msg1341132

That's hawt...

Terry

[achalsey]

Instead of bumping the one linked from 08, slight hijack since its clear how its pronounced in German, whether people want to adhere to that is up to them:

Gefell?

I thought it was (soft g) Ge-fell (like "Ge"-oregia), but have heard it pronounced "Jeff-el" (with emphasis on the 'Jeff').

[greenone]

It's clear, or it's not clear? I've never heard anything other than "guh-FELL", though tons of folks insist on doubling the F for whatever reason.

[gkatz]

are they actually pronounced "sheps,"?  I always thought it was something along the lines of "shoops"

The correct way to say Schoeps is EXPENSIVE AS HELL

lol that works too

I pronounce them as "Shopes"

I was listening to ZMan's pull of Phish at SPAC 2010 and at the end I distinctly remember hearing "sheps" along with the KFC/ZFC/AARP business lol

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I pronounce them as "Shopes"

I was listening to ZMan's pull of Phish at SPAC 2010 and at the end I distinctly remember hearing "sheps" along with the KFC/ZFC/AARP business lol

and this is why the Germans laugh at us. just saying

It's clear, or it's not clear? I've never heard anything other than "guh-FELL", though tons of folks insist on doubling the F for whatever reason.

kangfirmed. hard-g. I just asked the German speaker in my office.

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[Walstib62]

I pronounce them as "Shopes"

I was listening to ZMan's pull of Phish at SPAC 2010 and at the end I distinctly remember hearing "sheps" along with the KFC/ZFC/AARP business lol

and this is why the Germans laugh at us. just saying

It's clear, or it's not clear? I've never heard anything other than "guh-FELL", though tons of folks insist on doubling the F for whatever reason.

kangfirmed. hard-g. I just asked the German speaker in my office.

edit: (added bold)

Dude, You talk to your speakers???

[blee421]

The correct way to say Schoeps is EXPENSIVE AS HELL

 

[stevetoney]

I pronounce them as "Shopes"

I was listening to ZMan's pull of Phish at SPAC 2010 and at the end I distinctly remember hearing "sheps" along with the KFC/ZFC/AARP business lol

and this is why the Germans laugh at us. just saying

Actually, Americans laugh at the Germans too (those lederhosen really are pretty funny looking), so I guess we're equally amused by each other.

No really, the pronunciation is not clear at all.  If you listen to the link that DSatz posted, the pronunciation is clearly 'SHOPES', but if you listen to the link that Hi and Lo posted, Helmut Wittek clearly says 'SHEPS' so apparently even the Germans within the company don't agree on the pronunciation.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

No really, the pronunciation is not clear at all.

That's because there is no clear English pronouciation... 

ö (oh-umlaut) – The word "umlaut" means "change in sound" and an umlauted 'o' changes to a sound with no equivalent in English. An easy way to get this sound is to think of it as the 'u' in the British word 'murder'. Commonly, the 'long ö' is made by first sounding 'oo' as in moon, then pursing the lips as if to whistle, and changing the sound to 'a' as in 'late'. An example word is schön (beautiful). The 'short ö' sound is made by first sounding 'oo', pursing the lips, and changing the sound to 'e' as in 'pet. A 'short ö' sounds actually very similar to the 'i' in 'sir'. An example word is zwölf (twelve). If you have problems pronouncing ö, do not replace it by "o" but by "e" (as in elf) like in many German dialects. In written and printed German, 'oe' can be an acceptable substitute for 'ö' if the latter is unavailable.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/German/Appendices/Alphabet

Terry

[tim in jersey]

Click, click, bloody click. I want pancakes.

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I just asked the German speaker in my office.

Dude, You talk to your speakers???

Dude, you don't? 

I can see the cone smiling at me when I ask it questions....   

[stevetoney]

No really, the pronunciation is not clear at all.

That's because there is no clear English pronouciation... 

ö (oh-umlaut) – The word "umlaut" means "change in sound" and an umlauted 'o' changes to a sound with no equivalent in English. An easy way to get this sound is to think of it as the 'u' in the British word 'murder'. Commonly, the 'long ö' is made by first sounding 'oo' as in moon, then pursing the lips as if to whistle, and changing the sound to 'a' as in 'late'. An example word is schön (beautiful). The 'short ö' sound is made by first sounding 'oo', pursing the lips, and changing the sound to 'e' as in 'pet. A 'short ö' sounds actually very similar to the 'i' in 'sir'. An example word is zwölf (twelve). If you have problems pronouncing ö, do not replace it by "o" but by "e" (as in elf) like in many German dialects. In written and printed German, 'oe' can be an acceptable substitute for 'ö' if the latter is unavailable.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/German/Appendices/Alphabet

Terry

Not really Terry.  I understand that Americans butcher the pronunciation of an umlaut. 

My point was that it doesn't matter if you listen in English or German, the two Germans pronounce it different from each other, so it's not Americans that are butchering the pronunciation of the word that's the reason that the name gets pronounced differently.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

No really, the pronunciation is not clear at all.

That's because there is no clear English pronouciation... 

ö (oh-umlaut) – The word "umlaut" means "change in sound" and an umlauted 'o' changes to a sound with no equivalent in English. An easy way to get this sound is to think of it as the 'u' in the British word 'murder'. Commonly, the 'long ö' is made by first sounding 'oo' as in moon, then pursing the lips as if to whistle, and changing the sound to 'a' as in 'late'. An example word is schön (beautiful). The 'short ö' sound is made by first sounding 'oo', pursing the lips, and changing the sound to 'e' as in 'pet. A 'short ö' sounds actually very similar to the 'i' in 'sir'. An example word is zwölf (twelve). If you have problems pronouncing ö, do not replace it by "o" but by "e" (as in elf) like in many German dialects. In written and printed German, 'oe' can be an acceptable substitute for 'ö' if the latter is unavailable.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/German/Appendices/Alphabet

Terry

Not really Terry.  I understand that Americans butcher the pronunciation of an umlaut. 

My point was that it doesn't matter if you listen in English or German, the two Germans pronounce it different from each other, so it's not Americans that are butchering the pronunciation of the word that's the reason that the name gets pronounced differently.

Germans have different dialects, which have slightly different syntax, spelling, word-usage, and pronouciation...  It took me by surprise when I was there, that my girlfriend (from northern germany) had a hard time understanding one of her friends (way southern germany very close to france) when she got drunk...  But then again, I live in Raleigh, NC and have a hard time understanding my cousin's husband when he is drunk.  He's from Lillington, about 2 hours south of here, and they have a VERY strong accent there... 

Terry

[Walstib62]

How does one pronounce  Bruel & Kjaer ?

[tim in jersey]

How does one pronounce  Bruel & Kjaer ?

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[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

How does one pronounce  Bruel & Kjaer ?

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[StuStu]

I asked a German girl if she clearly understood German speaking Swiss. She gave gave a firm "no!" Sorry I asked.