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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #90 on: June 07, 2012, 02:29:29 AM »
I have been running these:
http://www.thomasdistributing.com/-MAHA-POWEREX-Four-2700-mAh-AA-NIMH-Rechargeable-Batteries_p_20.html
on a set of 4 for about 3 years, and recording at 24/96. 

UI typically get 2-3 shows out of a set of freshly charged batteries when I have a couple of shows in a week.... $13 for 3 years, ~100 shows a year... you do the math
Ditto, I've gotten about 30 hours from a set of 2.
I've got about 20 of these batts, plus some AAA for other devices.
all in all they hold a charge and last a long time.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #91 on: June 07, 2012, 03:39:49 AM »
regarding #83 above
battery life with the SD722 will vary with sampling rate because it will affect how much power is needed to spin the hard drive.
since the M10 is solid state, I wouldn't expect to see much of an effect.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #92 on: June 07, 2012, 08:56:57 AM »
I have been running these:
http://www.thomasdistributing.com/-MAHA-POWEREX-Four-2700-mAh-AA-NIMH-Rechargeable-Batteries_p_20.html
on a set of 4 for about 3 years, and recording at 24/96. 

UI typically get 2-3 shows out of a set of freshly charged batteries when I have a couple of shows in a week.... $13 for 3 years, ~100 shows a year... you do the math
Ditto, I've gotten about 30 hours from a set of 2.
I've got about 20 of these batts, plus some AAA for other devices.
all in all they hold a charge and last a long time.

I have tons of their batteries, and they do come to an EOL (end of life) and you will see it after 3-4 years of use/recharge... and thats when I demote them to the kids toys... but I have learned the hard way, if you have to fight to get them to charge, just dump them and move on.... occasionally they do wonk out but it has never been in the field, just when trying to charge

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #93 on: June 07, 2012, 09:00:23 AM »
regarding #83 above
battery life with the SD722 will vary with sampling rate because it will affect how much power is needed to spin the hard drive.
since the M10 is solid state, I wouldn't expect to see much of an effect.

Check the SD site: http://www.sounddevices.com/notes/recorders/ssd-current-draw/
Solid State vs spinning hard drive are basically the same power draw... the differences are negligible

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #94 on: June 07, 2012, 11:56:01 AM »
Nice price for the m10, gd420mj!

Record your twins and listen to it while you're at work or in a few months. You will be able to hear how much they have grown up and how fast they learn.

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tough being dad of 4 yr old twins...and wanting to go out tape everything
  Heh, teach them how to use it!  It's never too early to learn how to be a recording engineer.  These days kids pick up tech stuff so fast.

And as someone mentioned above, recording the kids can be great for replay in future years.  I have a few of mine from that kind of age - and now they are in their mid 30's. 

It's also good to get out on your own sometimes...!

The first thing I did record with it was them. I played it back for them, and they were thrilled. Then some of my wife and I playing guitars together. The internal mics sound really good. I am very impressed. I just made some home made binaurals with the WM-61A caps and a homemade battery box. I had it outside last night and had the mic sens on low but gain on 10. I could hear everything including me breathing a few ft away and very low noise.

I tape my first show this weekend with it. Eilen Jewell at Howard Theater in DC. Can't Wait...
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #95 on: June 09, 2012, 03:15:28 AM »
I have been running these:
http://www.thomasdistributing.com/-MAHA-POWEREX-Four-2700-mAh-AA-NIMH-Rechargeable-Batteries_p_20.html
on a set of 4 for about 3 years, and recording at 24/96. 

UI typically get 2-3 shows out of a set of freshly charged batteries when I have a couple of shows in a week.... $13 for 3 years, ~100 shows a year... you do the math

100 shows a year ? Do you work for bands or something ?
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #96 on: June 09, 2012, 10:40:40 PM »
I have been running these:
http://www.thomasdistributing.com/-MAHA-POWEREX-Four-2700-mAh-AA-NIMH-Rechargeable-Batteries_p_20.html
on a set of 4 for about 3 years, and recording at 24/96. 

UI typically get 2-3 shows out of a set of freshly charged batteries when I have a couple of shows in a week.... $13 for 3 years, ~100 shows a year... you do the math

100 shows a year ? Do you work for bands or something ?

I record around 100+ sets a year and have been the last 15+ years :) But I do LOTS of local shows[without a license] and about 4 festies a year :)
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #97 on: June 09, 2012, 10:42:12 PM »
Hell, I just counted and I recorded 38 sets from just Summer Camp 2 weeks ago 8)
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #98 on: June 09, 2012, 10:42:43 PM »
Thanks to Tonedeaf of course! You rule Steve!
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #99 on: June 10, 2012, 11:30:09 AM »
100 shows a year ? Do you work for bands or something ?

That's nothing.  Zman records a thousand shows a year.  He's often recording 2, 3 shows a night.

All it takes is the will, endurance, and sufficient quantities of the right food.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #100 on: June 10, 2012, 01:05:44 PM »
All it takes is the will, endurance, and sufficient quantities of the right food.

what about money? You think all his tickets are comped?
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #101 on: June 11, 2012, 09:10:05 AM »
100 shows a year ? Do you work for bands or something ?

I should have said bands, not events.... openers and headliners... and festivals can hit 10 or more per show.

I am just addicted to music.  I have not really hit summer yet and I am around 35 or 40 bands with some 15 more shows with tickets coming up and numerous free shows with 2 openers and a headliner

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #102 on: June 12, 2012, 12:44:50 PM »
When I listen to the mic input on these tests the M-10 sounds good, but the line input sounds noticeably
lacking:
http://www.wingfieldaudio.com/portable-recorder-noise.html#samples
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #103 on: June 12, 2012, 01:10:37 PM »
regarding #83 above
battery life with the SD722 will vary with sampling rate because it will affect how much power is needed to spin the hard drive.
since the M10 is solid state, I wouldn't expect to see much of an effect.

Check the SD site: http://www.sounddevices.com/notes/recorders/ssd-current-draw/
Solid State vs spinning hard drive are basically the same power draw... the differences are negligible

Wow, I find that very surprising!
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 6)
« Reply #104 on: June 12, 2012, 01:58:54 PM »
When I listen to the mic input on these tests the M-10 sounds good, but the line input sounds noticeably
lacking:
http://www.wingfieldaudio.com/portable-recorder-noise.html#samples

These tests are worthless for music tapers. What good to music tapers is a test which records a few spoken words? The line input test actually sounds OK to me but there is a buzzing in the mic input test which would not be OK if the M10 mic input really really produced a buzz with mics we use.

The M10 has been shown to have a good line input as well as mic input via countless music recordings posted on line and all the positive comments from taperssection members.
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