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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2013, 04:35:55 PM »
M10 ordered!

Can I get some pieces of advice regarding recording settings?

The acoustic gig (one guitarist, one pianist) will take place indoor and only approximately 1500 tickets was put up for sale- a small intimate concert.


I will be sitting on the third row center.

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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2013, 12:04:48 AM »
You can buy a 64gb microsdxc card that WILL work in your m10. You just have to format it in a windows machine first ;) at 24-Bit/44.1kHz, thats close to 66 hrs of runtime :)
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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2013, 05:47:03 AM »
The M10 is compatible with MAC OSX, right?

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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2013, 11:26:58 AM »
The M10 is compatible with MAC OSX, right?

Yes.

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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2013, 01:58:58 AM »
Regarding storage:

Recording in best possible quality, How many hours will the internal 4 GB be enough for? I worry about the fact that it only says "micro sd" and micro men. stick from sony. I would like it to take other storage media as well. Especially as I have heard that SD cards are unreliable.

Is the M10 very well built (buttons feel like quality etc.)

Sd cards are highly UNreliable ??? I COMPLETELY disagree with that statement. You can use a 64gb microsdxc card in an m10 if you format it in your PC first. I have a 32gb card and never take it out. Lot less to worry about. Just plug USB into m10 and PC and just wait a few mins, DONE!!!!

If you have a 4gb card and want to record at highest quality, which is 24/96, your card will last 2 hrs, that's IT!!!
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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2013, 02:00:05 AM »
And FWIW! I switched from recording at 24/48 to 24/44.1 because it saves me 20+ mins of post editing and I surely can't hear a difference.
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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2013, 03:04:24 AM »
With the card being FAT32 (max file size 1 GB, right), what happens if my recording gets bigger than 1 GB? Will it just create another file and will this happen totally seamlessly?

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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2013, 03:36:23 AM »
With the card being FAT32 (max file size 1 GB, right), what happens if my recording gets bigger than 1 GB? Will it just create another file and will this happen totally seamlessly?

Yes, and the M10 will record seamlessly between the memory card and the 4 gig internal memory, HOWEVER, you must enable cross memory recording in the menus.
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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2013, 08:48:28 AM »
With the card being FAT32 (max file size 1 GB, right), what happens if my recording gets bigger than 1 GB? Will it just create another file and will this happen totally seamlessly?

FAT32 maximum file size is 4 GB, but the max on the M10 is 2 GB (at which point it creates a new file)...

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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2013, 10:23:07 AM »
Ordered MicroSD 16 GB. Now to live with the fact, That I cannot record with the internal mice when in a crowd. Unless I tape it to my chest in some kind of pouch.

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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2013, 03:29:29 PM »
You can always use your Sony mic.

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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2013, 03:23:19 AM »
Of course. However, I was hoping that the internal mics of the M10 would be superior:


M10 mics: https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-audio/cat-recorders/product-PCMM10%2FB/

ECM719: http://store.sony.com/p/ECM-719/en/p/ECM719#specifications

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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2013, 08:17:46 AM »
Can't speak for either microphone (never used the internals).  I would recommend putting out a feeler (ISO=In Search Of) in the yard sale and see if you can pick up a used, good starter pair of mikes.
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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2013, 11:04:31 PM »
It depends on what you are recording. The other night at a show I tried to record through the internals for you--but it was a loud gig and the bass completely overloaded the mics. Unlistenable. But I have gotten very nice recordings with the internals under quieter conditions.

The ECM-719 gets around the bass overload by basically blocking a lot of bass and having low sensitivity. Look at its frequency response specs--the bottom note of a piano is 27.5 Hz, way lower than the Sony mic's 100 Hz.  (Each octave doubles the number of Hz--the next octave down from 100 is 50, and then 25, so you're losing the lower two octaves of bass. Ears pick up 20-20,000 Hz.)

 However,  better mics--are those CA-14 still around?-- and a battery box would let you record through line-in without overloading. The battery power makes the mics themselves able to handle more volume, and going through line-in bypasses the built-in mic preamp that can also overload. So you would get much more full-bodied sound, with more bass recorded in high fidelity. For instance, I recently went to an electronic dance music show with outboard mics (old Church Audio) and a battery box, and got a very good recording with no bass overload, subwoofers and all. A good mic recording in mp3 sounds better than a bad mic recording at CD quality, if you ask me.

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Re: Newbiw to get new gear- what to get for a max of 300 euros?
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2013, 04:26:16 AM »
BTW: I've read something about the internal mics of the M10 being unevenly matched (one recording a little louder than the other). Is this something I should worry about here in 2013 or have the newest batch of M10s had this fault corrected by Sony?

 

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