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SD7xx - mount device on [s]linux[/s] ANYmachine?
« on: February 18, 2005, 09:36:55 PM »
Has anyone successfully mounted their SD7xx HD via firewire on a linux machine?

"fdisk -l" can see the drive and reports fat32
"dd | strings" shows the FAT32 string as expected

mount barfs - bad superblock, etc.



Mount of my IDE attached WIN32 works.  Any ideas?
« Last Edit: February 19, 2005, 01:54:05 AM by El Barto »
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Re: SD7xx - mount device on linux machine?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2005, 10:04:18 PM »
http://www.sounddevices.com/download/download-744t.htm

I dunno if that will be of any help. Am I interpretting that page correctly in that they suggest using the Mandrake 10.1 distro?

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Re: SD7xx - mount device on linux machine?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2005, 10:16:47 PM »
I don't see how it would matter what distro, kernel support yes...
as far as the kernel is concerned it is an external firewire drive.
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Re: SD7xx - mount device on linux machine?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2005, 10:19:43 PM »
these drives on the 7xx come formatted as FAT32, so how do they handle the 4gb file limit? I assume it isn't an issue or they would do NTFS
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Re: SD7xx - mount device on linux machine?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2005, 10:21:07 PM »
I was just taking a stab in the dark, really. What do I know? I'm a windoze idiot.  :P

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Re: SD7xx - mount device on linux machine?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2005, 10:35:27 PM »
these drives on the 7xx come formatted as FAT32, so how do they handle the 4gb file limit? I assume it isn't an issue or they would do NTFS


wav files have a limit themselves, so filesystem doesn't matter

but the 722/744 can auto-split on 650megs, 1gig, 2gig or 4 gig

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Re: SD7xx - mount device on linux machine?
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2005, 10:42:08 PM »
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wav files have a limit themselves, so filesystem doesn't matter

you'd think I would've learned that by now, but I had no Idea.
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Re: SD7xx - mount device on linux machine?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2005, 11:08:18 PM »
http://www.sounddevices.com/download/download-744t.htm

I dunno if that will be of any help. Am I interpretting that page correctly in that they suggest using the Mandrake 10.1 distro?

Yeah, I suspected that it is intended to be possible and that it should work.  If it works on Mandrake it should work everywhere.   I can see the device and read the boot sector to verify that it is of proper FS type.  I just can't mount it and I don't have another FW device to try right now.  I'm formatting a FW HD enclosure now on windows to see if I can mount that.  I was just hoping some other geek on here would have tried this already and been successful.

 
these drives on the 7xx come formatted as FAT32, so how do they handle the 4gb file limit? I assume it isn't an issue or they would do NTFS

I think that they chose FAT32 for portability and liscensing reasons.  My understanding is that NTFS must be licensed, which is why there is no NTFS support in Linux.  Not sure about OSX
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Re: SD7xx - mount device on [s]linux[/s] ANYmachine?
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2005, 02:02:43 AM »
Follow up: 

I moved my FW card to an XP machine.  That card is verified to work - I'm using it to format an attached external HD right now.

On my system, the 722 does not appear in the folder tree in explorer. 

When I plug in the external HD, it just magicly shows up in the tree under explorer ad asks if I wish to fomat the raw drive.

When I attach the 722, it shows on it's display that it is attached to the computer.  However, no drive appears in windows explore folder tree.   The 722 manual is understandaly terse on this topic.

So, has anyone tried to attach to the 722 using ANY machine and were you able to see files on the 722s disk?
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Re: SD7xx - mount device on [s]linux[/s] ANYmachine?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2005, 10:23:10 AM »
worked fine on my powerbook. fast transfer too

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Re: SD7xx - mount device on [s]linux[/s] ANYmachine?
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2005, 10:31:24 AM »
Thanks.  I need to find another machine to try.
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Re: SD7xx - mount device on linux machine?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2005, 11:20:22 AM »
wav files have a limit themselves, so filesystem doesn't matter

but the 722/744 can auto-split on 650megs, 1gig, 2gig or 4 gig

Scott:

If these are using BWF I'm not sure the 4 GB limit is still enforced. Although I think you would be hard pressed to find an application that supported the larger files.

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Re: SD7xx - mount device on [s]linux[/s] ANYmachine?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2005, 07:13:32 PM »
Anyone have any luck with the firewire transfer to a PC running XP? 

What happens when you touch any key on the panel while attached via firewire?



I went to Damon's and his PC would not recognize the drive either.  In fact, I'm now seeing my 722 lock up during boot if powered on while the firewire cable is attached.  The machine will not respond to key pressed.  It's just locked up completely.   It also locks up on power up after this sequence, unless I leave power disconnected for several minutes.

At one point, we saw the panel indicate that the computer was attached, but at that point the computer reported no attached drive and the 722 refused to respond to any key input.

So if anyone has successfully attached using a PC , please get in touch.  I have a couple of questions for you.  (Tim I know you said yours worked but I know you are at the show now.)

Scott, I know yours worked with the powerbook.  What does the panel say during FW transfer if you touch any keys while linked to the computer?


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Re: SD7xx - mount device on [s]linux[/s] ANYmachine?
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2005, 07:52:15 PM »
FWIW you need kernel 2.6 to use firewire.  I'd upgrade to 2.6.10 since 1394 support is new as of 2.5.?? and is getting better and more robust in every version. 

I would also be wary of any pre-rolled kernel since it was not a default option in the version i just grabbed from kernel.org.  Also many of the firewire options are modules and may need to be specifically loaded.  All hotplug messages usb/1394/pcmcia should be available via dmesg.

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Re: SD7xx - mount device on [s]linux[/s] ANYmachine?
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2005, 08:28:53 PM »
It's not the linux kernel that is the problem (I am running a late revision of 2.6).  I could access the device using low level commands.  I could not mount it.  Since the problem is repeatable on two XP machines, I'm thinking Linux isn't the iussue.
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