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Overkill for a novice?
« on: May 16, 2005, 05:17:30 PM »
Hi all.  I'm a Long Time Reader, First Time Poster (LTRFTP)  :).  I've been interested in taping for about six months now and I'm really pondering what setup I want to buy.  I've got my eye on AKG391's & and Edirol R4.  Is this a little overkill for a newby? Should I just go with a JB3 instead of an R4 (it would be cheaper)?   

I just don't want to spend an outragous amount of money only to make below average recordings.

I also want to say that you guys are awesome, you are always willing to help out a newbie.   And you guys are full of so much damned info, I'm amazed!   ;)

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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2005, 05:26:02 PM »
I'f you've been lingering around, I'd bet you're gonna be addicted to the hobby... if that's so, then don't waste money getting newby stuff...

if you think you'll be sticking with it (which, if you've been interested for 6mos, you prolly will...) then go big!
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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2005, 05:44:22 PM »
buy the best gear that you can afford

newbie or not
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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2005, 05:46:56 PM »
buy the best gear that you can afford

newbie or not

tim is so damn smart.  99.9% of the time he's right  ;)  This is one of those times.
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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2005, 05:47:51 PM »
great minds think alike heath ;)
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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2005, 05:49:20 PM »
I'f you've been lingering around, I'd bet you're gonna be addicted to the hobby... if that's so, then don't waste money getting newby stuff...

if you think you'll be sticking with it (which, if you've been interested for 6mos, you prolly will...) then go big!
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yeah, don't get something you're going to want to upgrade instantly just to see if the tape will sound good or not. expecialy if you can afford better.

think of it like splitting wood w/ a hatchet or a sledge and wedge. better yet, go all out for the hydrolic log splitter!
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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2005, 05:49:32 PM »
you'd need something between the jb3 and mics to provide phantom power and gain (like a ua5) -- does the r4 provide phantom power and mic inputs?  If so, the r4 might well be the cheaper solution . . .

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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2005, 05:52:28 PM »
have i mentioned recently that tim is a jedi?   :P


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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2005, 05:56:14 PM »
Hi all.  I'm a Long Time Reader, First Time Poster (LTRFTP)  :).  I've been interested in taping for about six months now and I'm really pondering what setup I want to buy.  I've got my eye on AKG391's & and Edirol R4.  Is this a little overkill for a newby? Should I just go with a JB3 instead of an R4 (it would be cheaper)?   

I just don't want to spend an outragous amount of money only to make below average recordings.

I also want to say that you guys are awesome, you are always willing to help out a newbie.   And you guys are full of so much damned info, I'm amazed!   ;)

Like 15 folks asked me why I was getting a 722 and some mgs even though ive been taping for only like 8 or so months..My answer was cuz 1.) I knew i would keep at it 2) It looked and sounded great from what I heard and seemed to be user friendly and 3.) cuz i could.

get what you can afford,  do what it takes to make your ears happy. Its your money, noone should give a damn if you buy a midas mixing board and a fleet of u89s and goldchannels, do what you want with it. you are right about them being experts. I wouldnt know shit if it werent for these fine gentlemen(and ladies ) and eunuchs here

Ray
 

« Last Edit: May 16, 2005, 05:59:58 PM by BigRay »

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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2005, 05:58:09 PM »


get what you can afford,  do what it takes to make your ears happy. Its your money, noone should give a damn if you buy a midas mixing board and a fleet of u89s and goldchannels, do what you want with it.
 



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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2005, 06:02:28 PM »


get what you can afford,  do what it takes to make your ears happy. Its your money, noone should give a damn if you buy a midas mixing board and a fleet of u89s and goldchannels, do what you want with it.
 



qfmft

Or for that matter, who cares is you buy some at 4050s from a newer dude at 75 percent off cuz you know a lot and the dude dont ;) +T heath

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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2005, 06:11:45 PM »
have i mentioned recently that tim is a jedi?   :P




Really?  Welcome to the ranks, young jedi.   :P

I agree with Tim.  Buy what you can afford.  May the upgrade bug bite you hard. 

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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2005, 10:14:09 AM »
stay away from jbk ;)
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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2005, 01:39:57 PM »
buy the best you can afford, but don't borrow the rent money to do it.  The more common newbie rigs like c-4's, 391's, c-1000's, ua-5, jb3, d-8 and the like, can be had for a reasonable price used and when you go to sell you won't take a very big hit and you'll sell quick to the next guy on the fence.  That being said, you can buy smart on the higher end stuff the same way.  Many times people will sell a complete rig or most of a rig and that is often a great way to buy.  Any of the more common posters here will always offer help after the sale also... part of the pleasure of buying and selling "within the family".

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Re: Overkill for a novice?
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2005, 01:41:38 PM »
buy the best you can afford, but don't borrow the rent money to do it.  The more common newbie rigs like c-4's, 391's, c-1000's, ua-5, jb3, d-8 and the like, can be had for a reasonable price used and when you go to sell you won't take a very big hit and you'll sell quick to the next guy on the fence.  That being said, you can buy smart on the higher end stuff the same way.  Many times people will sell a complete rig or most of a rig and that is often a great way to buy.  Any of the more common posters here will always offer help after the sale also... part of the pleasure of buying and selling "within the family".

Matt

spoken like a scholar matt.+T hoss. BTW, im sellin a complete rig ad-20>ps2>coresounds cardoids in the yar sale section for a darn good price.  ;D

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