Topic: serious sound quality issues

[nihilistic0]

No EAX effects are enabled while recording

Bought an extender stereo cable, and Ill be damned if everything isnt plugged in all the way.  The rubber around the battery box is minimal, and does not come in contact with the plastic around the jack on the JB3 in any way, it is firmly pushed all the wya in.  I plugged in a extender cable from the battery box, and it snapped firmly all the way into place, and plugged thge mics in the other end, those also plugged firmy into place

I set my mics up, and recorded my PC speakers, once with the JB3 as the recording device, and once with the PC

JB3 settings are line in, 48kHz wav, +12db gain
PC settings are line in, maxed out teh slider under audio properties

Links to my equipment

Mics - http://www.core-sound.com/lcmics/1.php (I have the low cost cardioids)
Battery Box - http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-SPSB-1 (no bass rolloff)

Here are mp3's of what I recorded. The mics and speakers were in the exact same location for both recordings, and the volume of the speakers was almost exactly the same for both recordings

JB3 clip
PC clip

I had to boost the shit out of both the clips

Is this evidence that maybe my mics are broken? I tested the BB battery, with a voltmeter, putting out 8.9V

[balou2]

No EAX effects are enabled while recording

Bought an extender stereo cable, and Ill be damned if everything isnt plugged in all the way.  The rubber around the battery box is minimal, and does not come in contact with the plastic around the jack on the JB3 in any way, it is firmly pushed all the wya in.  I plugged in a extender cable from the battery box, and it snapped firmly all the way into place, and plugged thge mics in the other end, those also plugged firmy into place

I set my mics up, and recorded my PC speakers, once with the JB3 as the recording device, and once with the PC

JB3 settings are line in, 48kHz wav, +12db gain
PC settings are line in, maxed out teh slider under audio properties

Links to my equipment

Mics - http://www.core-sound.com/lcmics/1.php (I have the low cost cardioids)
Battery Box - http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-SPSB-1 (no bass rolloff)

Here are mp3's of what I recorded. The mics and speakers were in the exact same location for both recordings, and the volume of the speakers was almost exactly the same for both recordings

JB3 clip
PC clip

I had to boost the shit out of both the clips

Is this evidence that maybe my mics are broken? I tested the BB battery, with a voltmeter, putting out 8.9V

Do you have access to another pair of mics you could test as a comparison?  If you get a similar response, then you need to think about upgrading.

Regardless, you should consider trying multiple angles, set-ups and the likes during the same show.  You won't get a tape you like, but at least you'll learn how your equipment sounds in various positions and places...trial and error IOW.

[nihilistic0]

bump

Im not going to tape any more shows with my current setup.  Its sounds like garbage and no amount of mic positioning is going to fix it. 

Anyone else have any suggestions?  Im thinking that my mics are fucked, maybe a wire came loose or something, I dunno.

Im going to try to get some CMC-4's (AT853) and run that into my SP battery box line in into the JB3

Is this a known good configuration?

[jcrab66]

at853's are great if you actually get those and not those sp wanna bes that run with that shitty sp batt box

[tangerineman]

No EAX effects are enabled while recording

This got my attention... Is this a known issue? I would have thought the EAX settings playback of a previously recorded track only, not the signal being recorded. Anyone?

Apologies if this is covered in the jb3 faq. I don't believe it is tho.

[ScottT]

When did you last replace the battery in the batt box?

Could be a bad 9v... try a different one and see if that changes anything.

[nihilistic0]

I tried 2 different batteries, measured both of them with a voltmeter.  One was reading a little low at arounmd 8.6, but the other one was around 8.9

Both gave the same results, and its the same results as when the battery box was brand new

[CHURCH-AUDIO]

I think your problem has a common link. I would doubt very highly that both your mics are dead. I think its a plug issue have you check the plug with a meter set onto 1k ohms? Try attaching the red lead to ground on your mics plug, and the black lead to the rind and then to the tip. You should see a resistance of around 500 to 800 ohms if not check the ground on your mics connector. If its not that I suspect the bat box. And if its not that I would check your cable that goes from the bat box to the JB3 by using a cd player to record into the line input.

Chris Church

I hope that helps as a last resourt You can always send it back to SP they are pretty good about this kind of stuff and can tell in an instanant.

bump

Im not going to tape any more shows with my current setup.  Its sounds like garbage and no amount of mic positioning is going to fix it. 

Anyone else have any suggestions?  Im thinking that my mics are fucked, maybe a wire came loose or something, I dunno.

Im going to try to get some CMC-4's (AT853) and run that into my SP battery box line in into the JB3

Is this a known good configuration?

[Karl]

What you really need to do is switch out mics, then switch out batt box.  Process of elimination.  I would put money on the batt box.

[nihilistic0]

It was the mics

I got some at853's, recorded a show, and it came out quite well

[CHURCH-AUDIO]

Maybe you have a bad connection inside the 3.5 mm stereo jack? I would check that out some time even though you already have new mics. Just for interests sake.

It was the mics

I got some at853's, recorded a show, and it came out quite well

[nihilistic0]

Ive gone over just about everything I could.  All connections and soldering jobs were secure, I just figure the mics somehow got fried

O well, they weren't that great anyway, and was looking to upgrade

[Geoff G]

Ive gone over just about everything I could.  All connections and soldering jobs were secure, I just figure the mics somehow got fried

O well, they weren't that great anyway, and was looking to upgrade

New mics sound like the way to go...