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Re: Recording a house concert (in a real house)
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2007, 08:03:47 PM »
one of my favorites is a recording of a quartet of the finest chamber players on tour today; harpsichord, cello, violin and flute.
The concert was ins a nice room of a local library / garden, but, also behind the local restaurant.
A trash truck pulls up, picks up the dumpster, and proceeds to wind up the motor to drive the hydraulics, and then bang the trash can onto the trucks compactor, in order to unload all of its contents.
sometimes recording acoustic music is so rewarding.

I had a really nice Gray Fox recording of Railroad Earth working when two blitzed 50-something women started having an argument about how much they were going to pay for an oz. the were negotiating for.  ::)

Luckly, someone in another location grabbed the tune minus the dust up.
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Re: Recording a house concert (in a real house)
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2007, 12:03:21 AM »
Now are you recording House music in the House or just rock and roll  ;D

It might be easier to record the house music in da house, than the rock 'n' roll that I'm pretty sure is going down.  ;D

I run the ACM with the 20db pad at most club shows and add gain in post if needed, but would you run that and the 10 db that the c4's have in a little living room?

Listening to my lab/hound bark/howl at the moment.

Remember the smaller the space the more you might need to pad things down.. The inverse square law applies here because you are going to be closer to the speakers you can expect the SPL to be very high
* bring ear plugs *

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Re: Recording a house concert (in a real house)
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2007, 06:55:38 AM »
Now are you recording House music in the House or just rock and roll  ;D

It might be easier to record the house music in da house, than the rock 'n' roll that I'm pretty sure is going down.  ;D

I run the ACM with the 20db pad at most club shows and add gain in post if needed, but would you run that and the 10 db that the c4's have in a little living room?

Listening to my lab/hound bark/howl at the moment.

Remember the smaller the space the more you might need to pad things down.. The inverse square law applies here because you are going to be closer to the speakers you can expect the SPL to be very high
* bring ear plugs *

Chris


I got a sick feeling like when I used to be in trig...and I was only 'in' trig, not 'learning' trig... when you mentioned inverse square law. :-[

In practice, can I trust the ACM's little green and red lights and add pad as needed during the sound check?
Mics:        Akg 451 eb A51's, ck-1's, ck-2's, ck 8's
                Peluso CEMC6 MK2, MK4, MK21, MK41
                AKG 391
                CA-11 cards and omnis
Pre:          ST-9100
Cables:     XTC Silvers, DT47-12's
Recorders: ACM PMD660
                 Busman modded R-4
                 PCM-M10
                 DR-70D
                 Church modded R-09 micsketeer
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Re: Recording a house concert (in a real house)
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2007, 07:08:11 AM »
Now are you recording House music in the House or just rock and roll  ;D

It might be easier to record the house music in da house, than the rock 'n' roll that I'm pretty sure is going down.  ;D

I run the ACM with the 20db pad at most club shows and add gain in post if needed, but would you run that and the 10 db that the c4's have in a little living room?

Listening to my lab/hound bark/howl at the moment.

Remember the smaller the space the more you might need to pad things down.. The inverse square law applies here because you are going to be closer to the speakers you can expect the SPL to be very high
* bring ear plugs *

Chris


I got a sick feeling like when I used to be in trig...and I was only 'in' trig, not 'learning' trig... when you mentioned inverse square law. :-[

In practice, can I trust the ACM's little green and red lights and add pad as needed during the sound check?

In a small room with a rock band.. PAD FIRST ASK QUESTIONS LATER :)  hehehe I had to ...

Your going to need alot less gain in a small room with a loud band start with the pads on and see what kind of levels you get.

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Re: Recording a house concert (in a real house)
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2007, 09:56:34 AM »
Thanks Chris.
i can do that.  8)
Mics:        Akg 451 eb A51's, ck-1's, ck-2's, ck 8's
                Peluso CEMC6 MK2, MK4, MK21, MK41
                AKG 391
                CA-11 cards and omnis
Pre:          ST-9100
Cables:     XTC Silvers, DT47-12's
Recorders: ACM PMD660
                 Busman modded R-4
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Re: Recording a house concert (in a real house)
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2007, 11:01:25 PM »
Just a note.

This was a house Concert for the Cure, a fund raiser for the Cancer Society, and while the music was very good, it was made even more special for the fact that some of the musicians had/were fighting their own battles with cancer.

On the technical side, the Healy config rocks with the omnis.

I added a bit of gain to the acoustic sets in the post production, but other than that, the gig sounds really good.

There is a point where just as a song is ending, a motorcycle went by outside. and when I was working on it last night I looked behind me because it cruised from left to right in my headphones. V. nice.

Thank you all for the suggestions/ideas. I took the recording gig thinking it was just a favor for a friend of one of my daughters and it ended up being a very special evening.

Oh, and if I ever figure out the whole flac/uploading thing, I'll put the show up.
Mics:        Akg 451 eb A51's, ck-1's, ck-2's, ck 8's
                Peluso CEMC6 MK2, MK4, MK21, MK41
                AKG 391
                CA-11 cards and omnis
Pre:          ST-9100
Cables:     XTC Silvers, DT47-12's
Recorders: ACM PMD660
                 Busman modded R-4
                 PCM-M10
                 DR-70D
                 Church modded R-09 micsketeer
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Re: Recording a house concert (in a real house)
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2007, 01:01:14 AM »
Sounds like a inspiring event, thanks for reporting back.
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