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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #330 on: November 09, 2021, 08:56:32 AM »
Thanks!
Well now my fear of having modded a lemon is overwhelming.

If anyone has time to check out the file I would appreciate it.
I’ll spend some of today trying new wires and deoxit on the volume knob but I was really hoping it was going to be a mic sens issue.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #331 on: November 12, 2021, 08:16:21 AM »
Tell us about the mics, cables, and other items in the signal chain that night. Have you checked them out?

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #332 on: November 13, 2021, 08:15:28 PM »
Did you happen to switch from manual to auto gain? (Or is this disabled by the Oade mod?) The swings in gain sound like when I've bumped the Manual/Auto gain switch.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #333 on: November 15, 2021, 05:17:33 PM »
Well I shouldn’t have switched that. I found that the new mod makes the volume really sensitive and that the deck really likes a snug plug for the input.

I replaced all the cables and cleaned all the points and it seems to be tamed and working properly now.

Relief and Samples to come.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #334 on: November 16, 2021, 10:11:59 AM »
Well I shouldn’t have switched that. I found that the new mod makes the volume really sensitive and that the deck really likes a snug plug for the input.

I replaced all the cables and cleaned all the points and it seems to be tamed and working properly now.

Relief and Samples to come.

Good news, great to hear that!

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #335 on: November 16, 2021, 11:07:17 AM »
Concur!!!  How is the mod otherwise?   

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #336 on: December 01, 2021, 05:29:50 PM »
My warm mod m10 just arrived, haven’t been able to run yet.

I did ask Doug about lo sens/high sens and he said to stick with lo sens. He also said that no attenuation should be needed running mic in.

He also said he’s working on a potential additional mod that would supply 9v. The extra electronics would inhabit one of the former mic spaces. So you could run caps>kcy>adapter cable>m10. That would be way cool, for mics that can run off 9v. Nothing definite yet.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #337 on: December 02, 2021, 09:58:07 AM »
The 9V mod would be interesting; please keep us updated!

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #338 on: December 02, 2021, 12:04:05 PM »
will do!
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #339 on: December 03, 2021, 12:55:19 PM »
I think somewhere I stupidly said the m10 didn’t have a hi/lo sens setting. It does, on the back. Sorry. :facepalm:
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #340 on: December 06, 2021, 02:05:43 PM »
Concur!!!  How is the mod otherwise?

OK.
Finally got this thing under control, but it took some expensive 1/8" cables that snapped in tight and aren't as long as I would have liked them to be. As far as I can tell, that was the problem I'd had. The braided cables I like and have used many times in the past with the PMD620 didn't lock in tight to the M10, and the volume with the ACM mod was VERY sensitive. I'm going with it being the hi-Sens switch used at Dr. Dog and now I'm using the Low-Sens setting taped into place.

Go to this thread for some successful samples where you can compare MK5 (cards) > tiny box > ACM M10 and dpa4061 > caUGLY > Korg MR1

I have really got the dpa4061 taping down, but the acm M10 is probably a more interesting soundstage, but it needs a wider cap than the dpa4061.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #341 on: May 23, 2022, 12:07:04 PM »
Just joined the M10 crew earlier this month.

Ran to the internal memory with 853 subcards > soundpro box.  Next using it as a bit box from the out of my 680 during Phish OB this weekend.

Any approved memory card list floating around before I start scouring the site?
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #342 on: May 23, 2022, 01:34:42 PM »
Just joined the M10 crew earlier this month.

Ran to the internal memory with 853 subcards > soundpro box.  Next using it as a bit box from the out of my 680 during Phish OB this weekend.

Any approved memory card list floating around before I start scouring the site?

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #343 on: May 23, 2022, 03:00:28 PM »
Concur!!!  How is the mod otherwise?

OK.
Finally got this thing under control, but it took some expensive 1/8" cables that snapped in tight and aren't as long as I would have liked them to be. As far as I can tell, that was the problem I'd had. The braided cables I like and have used many times in the past with the PMD620 didn't lock in tight to the M10, and the volume with the ACM mod was VERY sensitive. I'm going with it being the hi-Sens switch used at Dr. Dog and now I'm using the Low-Sens setting taped into place.

Go to this thread for some successful samples where you can compare MK5 (cards) > tiny box > ACM M10 and dpa4061 > caUGLY > Korg MR1

I have really got the dpa4061 taping down, but the acm M10 is probably a more interesting soundstage, but it needs a wider cap than the dpa4061.

https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=198429.0

I've used an Oade ACM modded M-10 in the field twice now using an SP 9 volt battery box, mic-in, low sensitivity, gain wheel set at 3 or 4 depending on how loud the band was.  Worked like a charm.  In each case it was set and forget.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #344 on: May 24, 2022, 12:16:58 AM »
Just joined the M10 crew earlier this month.

Ran to the internal memory with 853 subcards > soundpro box.  Next using it as a bit box from the out of my 680 during Phish OB this weekend.

Any approved memory card list floating around before I start scouring the site?
A bit box is a deck that takes a digital signal from a preamp or other device, hence the name bit box. It adds nothing, it just takes and holds the bits from a non-recorder. The Sony M10 does not take a digital signal, it only takes an analog signal, so it cannot be used as a bit box.
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