Topic: Which setup?

[limered]

 I am recording band sessions with a DA-P1 and i need a setup that will not overlaod. I think I need to go line in with phantom power on the mics.
   spending about £350 ($700)-
  do you think AKG c391's or SP C4's ---> PS2 ---> DA-P1 would be ay good -
 what would be your suggestions if the budget was $1200?
 

[RebelRebel]

ADK TLs>>>v2>>>silver cables DAP1

[Nick Graham]

No need for the PS2, as the DAP1 provides phantom power.

Also, running line in you can't use phantom - it'll have to be mic in.

For $700 I'd grab a pair of ADK TLs and run them straight into the DAP1.

Just my $.02

[RebelRebel]

No need for the PS2, as the DAP1 provides phantom power.

Also, running line in you can't use phantom - it'll have to be mic in.

For $700 I'd grab a pair of ADK TLs and run them straight into the DAP1.

Just my $.02

dpa 4061>>mps>>>dap1

[RebelRebel]

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=55248.0

[limered]

No need for the PS2, as the DAP1 provides phantom power.

Also, running line in you can't use phantom - it'll have to be mic in.

For $700 I'd grab a pair of ADK TLs and run them straight into the DAP1.

Just my $.02

but Nick, to run line in; to use the RCA inputs - you need a seperate external phantom power unit.
  thanks for your contributions.

[Nick Graham]

No need for the PS2, as the DAP1 provides phantom power.

Also, running line in you can't use phantom - it'll have to be mic in.

For $700 I'd grab a pair of ADK TLs and run them straight into the DAP1.

Just my $.02

but Nick, to run line in; to use the RCA inputs - you need a seperate external phantom power unit.
  thanks for your contributions.

Right, which is why I said you'd wanna run mic in. The pre/AD on the DAP1 is actually pretty nice. Strictly for band practices, I'd keep your costs down, just buy mics, and use the DAP1 for everything else.

[limered]

 the trouble is - the levels on mic in are too high - it clips like mad.

[F.O.Bean]

if it overloads, you can use the -20db pad as well

[F.O.Bean]

or get line transformers

[limered]

I put the 20 dB pad on, but there must be a way of doing it without having to, I've think the limiter upsets the signal path in some ways - it can lead to more static type distortion at non-clip levels can't it?
 Are the line transformers readily available?
 who makes them, are they the Hosa ones?

[F.O.Bean]

the hosa ones i have seen online look ROCK SOLID FWIW

[F.O.Bean]

http://www.hosatech.com/hosa/products/ATT-448.html

[limered]

 thanks for the link Bean.
  so the transformers are to heat up the signal - to be able to go line in - I've got XLR's and I need to go into the rca phono sockets - that would be XLR mic lead termination > transformers > rca line inputs.
  so the MIT-435 - since I have RCA adaptors for 1/4 inch jack leads.
 

[F.O.Bean]

cant you use that attenuator i linked you to go mic>attenuator>xlr input on the dap1, I believe the line in is active in either the rca's or the xlr's, but I havent used the dap1 in AWHILE

I always thought you could just run xlr in and switch the lever on top to the 'line' posistion

[limered]

 I get what you're saying -  get the attenuators to cool the signal go XLR in - but I'm not sure the XLr's are active when you switch to line input.

[F.O.Bean]

I get what you're saying -  get the attenuators to cool the signal go XLR in - but I'm not sure the XLr's are active when you switch to line input.

Id def ask someone around here that uises one

[Kyle]

According to the manual - both the xlr and rca inputs are active at the same time regardless of the setting of the analog input switch.

So you should be fine going xlr in. I have heard though, that using the xlr as a line input essentially attenuates the signal so as to not overload the mic pre. Apparantly, the rca line in does not do this - I have always been told that it is better to use the rca - but I do not really know for sure...

[limered]

 yes I read that you get a +4dB reference using XLR with line in setting. In the manual it refers to the analog/digital switch activating both sets of inputs and not the line/mic switch.