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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2009, 08:18:38 PM »
A new pair of Milab VM-44's are hard to beat in that sorta price range and they sound great.  Full Compass has a 6 month, no interest, "credit" special going at various times which may be worth checking in to.  Basically you get a Full Compass credit card that is in your best interest to pay off before the 6 month promo expires.

I absolutely DO NOT like the Milab VM-44 Link shock mounting option and have considered adding a pair of VM-44 Classic (full bodies) to the arsenal, especially if a hyper cap becomes available for these.

Also, there may be a VM-44 Link "stereo bar" option available in the future...  Which would eliminate the Milab "spear" shock mounts for the 44-links.    That would make me very happy.

And a nice used pair of Gefell M20, M21, M27 for 1400-1500 would be sorta close to the price range that you mention too. 

Dirk also had a demo pair of Nevaton MK49's for around 1600 recently as well...  Nice mics!!

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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2009, 11:38:17 PM »
Interesting you don't like the vm44-link mounting system. I actually like it quite a bit. I've found it easy to put the mounts on a short delrin bar to create a mount very much like a kwonbar for easy mounting in a single shockmount.

Unlike a kwonbar though, the swiveling of the milab mount spears allows me to easily change the angle between the mics to something other than 90 degrees if I want.

Also, the mounting spear together with the rubber mounting grommets provide a good amount of vibration isolation if you run the mics without a shockmount.

Different preferences I guess....
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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2009, 06:48:41 AM »
Interesting you don't like the vm44-link mounting system. I actually like it quite a bit. I've found it easy to put the mounts on a short delrin bar to create a mount very much like a kwonbar for easy mounting in a single shockmount.

Unlike a kwonbar though, the swiveling of the milab mount spears allows me to easily change the angle between the mics to something other than 90 degrees if I want.

Also, the mounting spear together with the rubber mounting grommets provide a good amount of vibration isolation if you run the mics without a shockmount.

Different preferences I guess....

I detest the VM-44 Link mounting system.   ;D ;D

I too put the mounts on a short delrin bar to create a mount very much like a kwonbar for easy mounting in a single shockmount.

It is the "spearing" of the mic process that I find totally "bush league engineering" on Milab's part.  C'mon, having to "jam" an expensive pair of mic capsules into a metal forked arrangement just to hold them steady.  Extremely poor design in my opinion.  I would prefer a less "damage threatening", passive mounting approach on Milab's part.  I do love the Milab VM44 sound though and I will continue my search for someone to fabricate a stereo bar for them.

 ;D

« Last Edit: November 18, 2009, 06:56:13 AM by dactylus »
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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2009, 07:52:43 AM »
Ummm....I was actually suggesting them for the guy looking for mics :-)


No way, Dogg.

I will die with my MG's. I'm done buying mics.

 ;)


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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2009, 09:53:25 AM »
Well, thank goodness for that. You had quoted me, so I thought you were trying to nudge me in the "wrong" direction.

But, whatever. Get some KM184's and be done with it, John. That way, I can borrow them  >:D

Ummm....I was actually suggesting them for the guy looking for mics :-)


No way, Dogg.

I will die with my MG's. I'm done buying mics.

 ;)


and there ya go

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They're fixed cards, but very versatile and handle the rock shows quite well.
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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2009, 11:00:25 AM »
There was no mention of a UA5 in my post (was that my out loud voice?)

Well, thank goodness for that. You had quoted me, so I thought you were trying to nudge me in the "wrong" direction.

Ummm....I was actually suggesting them for the guy looking for mics :-)


No way, Dogg.

I will die with my MG's. I'm done buying mics.

 ;)


and there ya go

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=129254.0;topicseen


I ran KM184's for a good while, and loved them. I was actually toying with the idea of trading my Gefells for a set, plus some cash (the madness soon passed).

They're fixed cards, but very versatile and handle the rock shows quite well.
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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2009, 11:13:31 AM »

Huh?

I don't own a UA5.

/confused face

There was no mention of a UA5 in my post (was that my out loud voice?)

Well, thank goodness for that. You had quoted me, so I thought you were trying to nudge me in the "wrong" direction.

Ummm....I was actually suggesting them for the guy looking for mics :-)


No way, Dogg.

I will die with my MG's. I'm done buying mics.

 ;)


and there ya go

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=129254.0;topicseen


I ran KM184's for a good while, and loved them. I was actually toying with the idea of trading my Gefells for a set, plus some cash (the madness soon passed).

They're fixed cards, but very versatile and handle the rock shows quite well.
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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2009, 11:15:43 AM »
I was poking fun at the UA5.  You're no fun to tell jokes to.


Huh?

I don't own a UA5.

/confused face

There was no mention of a UA5 in my post (was that my out loud voice?)

Well, thank goodness for that. You had quoted me, so I thought you were trying to nudge me in the "wrong" direction.

Ummm....I was actually suggesting them for the guy looking for mics :-)


No way, Dogg.

I will die with my MG's. I'm done buying mics.

 ;)


and there ya go

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=129254.0;topicseen


I ran KM184's for a good while, and loved them. I was actually toying with the idea of trading my Gefells for a set, plus some cash (the madness soon passed).

They're fixed cards, but very versatile and handle the rock shows quite well.
#Generalstrike for president in 2024

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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2009, 01:41:07 PM »
I'm in the middle of law school. They suck the humor out of us when we come through the door on our first day.

I was poking fun at the UA5.  You're no fun to tell jokes to.


Huh?

I don't own a UA5.

/confused face

There was no mention of a UA5 in my post (was that my out loud voice?)

Well, thank goodness for that. You had quoted me, so I thought you were trying to nudge me in the "wrong" direction.

Ummm....I was actually suggesting them for the guy looking for mics :-)


No way, Dogg.

I will die with my MG's. I'm done buying mics.

 ;)


and there ya go

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=129254.0;topicseen


I ran KM184's for a good while, and loved them. I was actually toying with the idea of trading my Gefells for a set, plus some cash (the madness soon passed).

They're fixed cards, but very versatile and handle the rock shows quite well.
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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2009, 01:21:23 PM »
I'm in the middle of law school. They suck the humor out of us when we come through the door on our first day.

Well then TB, yer halfway back to having a sense of humor again.....   :D
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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2009, 01:44:48 PM »
Well then TB, yer halfway back to having a sense of humor again.....   :D

That would be cool, except for the fact that they also extract all glass-half-full proclivities after the first semester.



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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2009, 02:15:16 PM »
I would 2nd or 3rd the
recommendation for the Milab VM-44-links
thanx to ToddR's comp between the KM 140's and the VM-44's
I chose the VM-44's
I have always thought the KM140's were my favorite sounding mic
however I think they are much more pricey
and the VM44 (to my ears) sound more natural flat and overall well balanced  including a nice thick well defined lowend

now that there is a US distribution center- FDW W - I hope we will find them more easily accessible.

that's my 2¢

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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2009, 02:18:58 PM »
It's a heavy price to pay to defend truth, justice and the almighty dollar American way.

Oh, is that what lawyers do...

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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2009, 02:29:21 PM »

Also, the mounting spear together with the rubber mounting grommets provide a good amount of vibration isolation if you run the mics without a shockmount.

Different preferences I guess....

I detest the VM-44 Link mounting system.   ;D ;D

I too put the mounts on a short delrin bar to create a mount very much like a kwonbar for easy mounting in a single shockmount.

It is the "spearing" of the mic process that I find totally "bush league engineering" on Milab's part.  C'mon, having to "jam" an expensive pair of mic capsules into a metal forked arrangement just to hold them steady.  Extremely poor design in my opinion.  I would prefer a less "damage threatening", passive mounting approach on Milab's part.  I do love the Milab VM44 sound though and I will continue my search for someone to fabricate a stereo bar for them.

 ;D

I know that dactylus   detests the mounting system
however
I disagree
while it can be awkward, I think it's a unique piece of engineering. - you may have seen my  DIY ORTF / DINa bar that I made and use  with a single shock  like a kwon bar too.

I have found the mics capsules very easily mount into the u-shaped mounts by aligning them a giving the capsule a simple twist into the U. it's quick easy and secure. no problems here.  :)

I am also expecting a second set of clip/mounts so whan I finally get some omni caps I can easily run spaced omnis onstage without disassembling my ORTF /DINa bar.

[while I have not done this I did think about: placing a small drop of silicone oil (or armor-all) onto the rubber grommet on the capsule - to ease the sliding of the rubber onto the metal U mount.  remember kidz- it it doesn't fit in easily a little bit of lube can make it slide right in!  ;)  ]

peace
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Re: What pair of mics should I look at in the $1000 to $1200 range?
« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2009, 04:55:48 PM »
YS posting reminded me:  I'd also consider Audio Technica 40xxb (49b = omni, 51b = cardioid, 53b = hypercardioid).  For your budget, you could get a pair of bodies & caps used + an extra set of caps new.
Milab VM-44 Links > Fostex FR-2LE or
Naiant IPA (tinybox format) >
Roland R-05

 

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