Topic: DPA4061's - Questions

[madman]

I think it'd be cheaper to go with new 406Xs and a DPA box over the $990 charged for the basic HEB set at Core Sound.  Plus, you don't have to deal with a grumpy man on the phone.

[Josephine]

I'm going to be in the market for a pair of 4060's shortly.
If anyone regrets their's not getting sufficient exercise, please get in touch. 

[Nick's Picks]

save your money val, sell the SBM>M1 and buy an ACM660.
that will yeild you better results than new mics.
;-)

[Josephine]

save your money val, sell the SBM>M1 and buy an ACM660.
that will yeild you better results than new mics.
;-)

What's an ACM660, Nick?  How big?  How much? 

[JiB97]

save your money val, sell the SBM>M1 and buy an ACM660.
that will yeild you better results than new mics.
;-)

What's an ACM660, Nick?  How big?  How much? 

Here's a good intro the ACM PMD660:

http://www.oade.com/digital_recorders/hard_disc_recorders/PMD-660.html

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

save your money val, sell the SBM>M1 and buy an ACM660.
that will yeild you better results than new mics.
;-)

Sell a nice 16 bit A/D and recorder for another flavor of 16 bit and you'll get better results than new mics?   

The hypers you have Val are pretty sweet, but adding another mic into the mix would help in the right situations.  Having a versatile seletion of mics is a much better investment than jumping from one 16bit recorder to another, but that's just my opinion.

Then buy an Oade modded 660... 

[Josephine]

I took a quick look at the 660 -- it's just too big.  I don't doubt how wonderful it sounds; however, it's just too large for my purpose.
I think I've got my heart set on the 4060's.  I really enjoy the DPA sound and like how small they are.  I will be able to bring the 4060's into shows I would otherwise not tape.

[pfife]

in fact, i'd go as far as to say that the 4060 could easily be the best universal concert taping mic available for many reasons, but the big one being consistantly pleasing results, as long as you can position yourself favorably.

1. easy to run
2. easy to power
3. easy to hide, if necessary
4. versitile in that you can run omnis in many ways
5. they produce ! 

Ive run them into shitty gear (line in on a JB3, for example) and high end gear (v3, dpa pre, etc etc) and they excell w/everything.

TS's most truthful post ever.   

I love my 4060s.  However, there are rare occassions when I wish I had some hypers... but that's what teammates are for!   

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

I took a quick look at the 660 -- it's just too big.  I don't doubt how wonderful it sounds; however, it's just too large for my purpose.
I think I've got my heart set on the 4060's.  I really enjoy the DPA sound and like how small they are.  I will be able to bring the 4060's into shows I would otherwise not tape.

You could even get away with 4060 > D100 line in for an extra light and compact setup.  You can't go wrong!

[pfife]

the other option that I think looks pretty sweet is that dongle they are making for the mt2496.  That'll power 4060s that are wired to a miniplug.  Although, I don't know how the A/Ds in the MT sound.

[pfife]

Might be better just to go with the DPA battery box, or HEB's from CoreSound.  Not much price difference then, when you add up new DPA 406Xs, adaptors, & the cost of a SP 9or other) battery box.

the dpa battery boxes are surprisingly inexpensive, iirc

[Josephine]

I've already got an SP battery box that I could use.  Would I be better off with the DPA battery box?
Hadn't even considered running them with my MT (don't know how to use it yet  ).

[pfife]

I've already got an SP battery box that I could use.  Would I be better off with the DPA battery box?
Hadn't even considered running them with my MT (don't know how to use it yet  ).

well, I guess it depends.  I think the cheapest way to go is to grab some with lemo connectors on ebay, cut of the connectors, and solder them to a miniplug.   THis would work with the SP bb.  The major disadvantage with this is that the mics are rarely matched - mine from ebay were off by over 3dbs.

Otherwise, if you buy them new, you are probably going to get microdots.  I personally think it would be a waste to cut the microdots off, but it sounds like there are adapters to use to get them to 1/8". 

I can't speak to a sound quality difference, but from what I read (and what I understand) is that numerically the DPA gear should sound better, but I really don't know for sure.  I really liked both setups I had, but I much prefer having the matched mics w/ mma6000.  I'd like to get an MPS box at some point.

[dunebug81]

Well crap...did i downgrade mics when I went from HEB (4060s) to 4061 / MMA6000??  Having taped a few shows in various settings I think I like the 4061s better then the 4060s.  I think it sounds better...Im sure alot of it has to do with going from a coresound battery box to the MMA6000.  Any thoughts? 

Josephine, I do have a HEB (4060) + battery box / bass filter for sale in the yard sale.  Its only one mic as I busted the other one and never got a replacemnt but I'm selling it cheap $250 so even after buying another mic it will still be a pretty good deal.

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

I've already got an SP battery box that I could use.  Would I be better off with the DPA battery box?
Hadn't even considered running them with my MT (don't know how to use it yet  ).

well, I guess it depends.  I think the cheapest way to go is to grab some with lemo connectors on ebay, cut of the connectors, and solder them to a miniplug.   THis would work with the SP bb.  The major disadvantage with this is that the mics are rarely matched - mine from ebay were off by over 3dbs.

Otherwise, if you buy them new, you are probably going to get microdots.  I personally think it would be a waste to cut the microdots off, but it sounds like there are adapters to use to get them to 1/8". 

I can't speak to a sound quality difference, but from what I read (and what I understand) is that numerically the DPA gear should sound better, but I really don't know for sure.  I really liked both setups I had, but I much prefer having the matched mics w/ mma6000.  I'd like to get an MPS box at some point.

MPS bass roll off mod.  I plan to hack mine up and keep the basic essentials and add a switchable bass filter.  If you plan on buying new, or a pair with microdots, the MPS boxes are a definite consideration.

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