Topic: Milab VM-44 Link

[muj]

most likely need to put in-line pads, max input level is - 6.  a 25-20 db attenuation should be fine before hitting the transformers, during a loud show.

[MattH]

you mean this preamp  http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72361.0 ?

http://www.marenius.se/indexeng.htm

I actually was thinking of the MM-4210 which has 4 mic pre's and mixer function. It handles up to +20dBu input signals and has nice meters.

[MattH]

Here are a couple of taper section recordings with the Milab's:

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=501451

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=501660

[Todd R]

most likely need to put in-line pads, max input level is - 6.  a 25-20 db attenuation should be fine before hitting the transformers, during a loud show.

What product are you talking about here, Muj? 

I'm using the Marenius MM4210 4 channel mixer when I do 4 mic mixes.  It has a max input level of +20dbu

[muj]

most likely need to put in-line pads, max input level is - 6.  a 25-20 db attenuation should be fine before hitting the transformers, during a loud show.

What product are you talking about here, Muj? 

I'm using the Marenius MM4210 4 channel mixer when I do 4 mic mixes.  It has a max input level of +20dbu

Todd i was referring  to the SMF-5 

[Todd R]

D'oh!!  I guess I should read thru the whole thread before responding.  I'm with it now.

[mmedley.]

If that is the pre on the Milab site then yes that is what I was referring to. Thanks for the info! 

[MattH]

If that is the pre on the Milab site then yes that is what I was referring to. Thanks for the info! 

The only box that looks like a pre on the milab website is a 48V phanton power supply. Best I can tell there is no gain that can be added to the signal with that box.

[brn2rn]

AFAIK Milabs has no pre in their catalogue at all.
Marenius is good of course. But they have nothing to do with Milab.

The little pcb I was talking about is the pcb inside the amps on the end of the active cables. This pcb could easily be built into a dedicated ps-2 for less bulk in stealth setups.

[F.O.Bean]

i like this marenius, but as mij noted, the min inpuyt gain is 30db, i like running my pre's at 20-25db and letting the 722 do the rest of the gain id need a 10db attenuator

bet it sounds sweet with 480's

http://www.marenius.se/indexeng.htm

[thegreatgumbino]

According to Thomas, Milab's chief engineer says they rival dpa's.

So, who on Team CO runs DPA's & a V3 that can put them up head to head against Todd's Milab's > V3?   

[Ryan Sims]

Anyone have any experience with the full bodied VM44 Classic?  Odds are they sound the same, considering the Link have the body in the chain, right?

[Todd R]

According to Thomas, Milab's chief engineer says they rival dpa's.

So, who on Team CO runs DPA's & a V3 that can put them up head to head against Todd's Milab's > V3?   

Both Maury and Scott run 402x>V3, so I'm sure we'll get together to get a comp done eventually.  Would've happened last week if I hadn't wussed out and skipped the Kimock/Zilla show.

I've only run the Milabs a couple times, but I'm liking them so far.  I think they've got a fairly colored sound, though.  I'd probably say more akin to neumann km140s than DPAs, but I haven't run them enough to get a handle on it yet.

[Stagger]

Anyone bringing a set of Milabs to WsP NYE? I'd love to run on the same FOB stand (assuming we don't catch hell like last year) and see how they compare to Schoeps at Panic. The one Milab Panic show I have heard, 10/4/06 at the Backyard, smokes! If anyone is comming with a set drop me a PM (it would be a bonus if there is a 722 or 744 with them so we could just swap Compact Flash cards  )

[Todd R]

Ok, I finally got a torrent up of a recording with my new milabs:

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,78395.0.html

Last nights Zero show, up on COtapers.org right now.

A couple notes on this:  they seemed to really be struggling to get the sound dialed in throughout the first set, so you might want to listen to tracks from the second set if you're trying to judge the milabs.  Also, in addition to the 2ch milab recording, I also ran a 4ch mix with the milabs and a pair of SP C4 omnis.  To aid in the mix, I ran the milabs XY (never been my favorite pattern).  As a result, the soundstage of this recording is very narrow and constrained.  I've had much better results running the milabs DIN in other outings.

Maury was there with his DPA4022>V3 recording, with his mics just 8-10" away from mine, so hopefully at some point I can get a copy of his for comparison sake.  Scott was also right there, running DPA 4022> V2> Mytek Stereo192 ADC.  Might also be a fun comparison, but the V2>Mytek vs. V3 will be throwing some more variables into the mix.

[Edited to correct my senior-moment stupidity.]