Topic: SP-CMC-4U vs. SP-CMC-8 vs. SP-CMC-9

[Dede2002]

Hi,

Like most MM-HLSC-1 users, I love how they handle high SPL plus the clear and detailed sound, but I'd like to have a little more bass. The SP-CMC-9 seems to be a good mic choice. Any comments?
Thanks in advance

[Javier Cinakowski]

That won't have any more bass.  The SP-CMC-8 and the SP-CMC-4U, might have slightly better bass, but noth worth the upgrade IMO.

You got a nice set of mics there with the HLSC....

[Dede2002]

That won't have any more bass.  The SP-CMC-8 and the SP-CMC-4U, might have slightly better bass, but noth worth the upgrade IMO.

You got a nice set of mics there with the HLSC....

Hey, thanks for the tips!

[Arni99]

get some omnis for fat bass sound .
if i get my dpa 4061s in time, i´ll do a testrun on saturday evening.
am curious how these babies will perform! .

will also record with my sp-cmc-4u at the same time on my iriver.

[Dede2002]

get some omnis for fat bass sound .
if i get my dpa 4061s in time, i´ll do a testrun on saturday evening.
am curious how these babies will perform! .

will also record with my sp-cmc-4u at the same time on my iriver.

My friend Arni, you're such a buyer, arent' you? (Just kidding...)
Did you get some 4061s? WOW, that's awesome. I've only heard wonderful thing about'em.
You know, I've almost got a pair couple of months ago. I gave up because the omni pattern has some issues I really can't live with (for the kind of music/venue I usually go).
What about last weekend concerts? How did you like the R-09?
Take care

[beefstew]

Hi,

Like most MM-HLSC-1 users, I love how they handle high SPL plus the clear and detailed sound, but I'd like to have a little more bass. The SP-CMC-9 seems to be a good mic choice. Any comments?
Thanks in advance

you can always add a little extra snatch of bass in post - its better than having too much bass=distortion

[MJ]

That won't have any more bass.  The SP-CMC-8 and the SP-CMC-4U, might have slightly better bass, but noth worth the upgrade IMO.

You got a nice set of mics there with the HLSC....

IMP, but CMC-4 seems to have better bass than CMC-8 and the HLSC.  With phantom power you could get even better sound.
Here is my recording with CMC-4 > PS-2 >D100
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=150928

[Arni99]

get some omnis for fat bass sound .
if i get my dpa 4061s in time, i´ll do a testrun on saturday evening.
am curious how these babies will perform! .

will also record with my sp-cmc-4u at the same time on my iriver.

My friend Arni, you're such a buyer, arent' you? (Just kidding...)
Did you get some 4061s? WOW, that's awesome. I've only heard wonderful thing about'em.
You know, I've almost got a pair couple of months ago. I gave up because the omni pattern has some issues I really can't live with (for the kind of music/venue I usually go).
What about last weekend concerts? How did you like the R-09?
Take care

yes, i´m a GEARSLUT HAHAH!
last week´s concert got postponed to saturday 30th june.
was too windy+stormy last week.
my used dpa 4061s should arrive today.
go for the dpa cardioids, they cost 2 or 3 times more than the omnis HAHA! 
i already taped with the r09 in march +april...no problem with this little toy.
easy to use...the red REC-light should NEVER flash when adjusting rec levels or using HOLD-button...maybe with the next firmware update.

[sebbydee]

That won't have any more bass.  The SP-CMC-8 and the SP-CMC-4U, might have slightly better bass, but noth worth the upgrade IMO.

You got a nice set of mics there with the HLSC....

IMP, but CMC-4 seems to have better bass than CMC-8 and the HLSC.  With phantom power you could get even better sound.
Here is my recording with CMC-4 > PS-2 >D100
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=150928

that's what i call a huge huge recording sound !!! never got such a sound with the 853's... i don't have phantom's neither...

[willyp523]

Hi,

Like most MM-HLSC-1 users, I love how they handle high SPL plus the clear and detailed sound, but I'd like to have a little more bass. The SP-CMC-9 seems to be a good mic choice. Any comments?
Thanks in advance

I have a pair of sp-cmc-9's and have only used them a couple times in the past year.  They're clean sounding but I was disappointed with the low end and had to add some in post.  They're micro sized though...considerably smaller than the 943's.  Work well when I need to be super stealth.

[Arni99]

I just downloaded the "Sharon Jones" show from DIME...wow...never heard a better sounding cardioid recording.
Seems SP-CMC-9 cardioids sound great under certain circumstances.
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=185035&hit=1

[a_doubt]

Hi everybody,

although this topic is old, I'd like to revive it. I've done a lot of reading here at TS in the last days in order to find the mics that fit best to what I want to do with them, and the SP-CMC-9's are on my short list.

So far, I've been using Sony ECM-719 > Sony MZ-RH 1 (stealth recording), and my latest update was buying a CA-9100 pre-amp and now I need new mics with "fuller sound" I'm impressed by the small size of the SP-CMC-9 and SP sell them at a good price at the moment.

From shows I have listened to I like the sound of the SP-CMC-8 (with AT943 cardioids), so basically this was my first idea, but then I read about the SP-CMC-9 and thought they might be a better choice. According to the SP website they utilize "a matched set of AT898 Audio Technica microphones" (cardioids) and when I looked up the specification of those mics at the AT website, I felt unconfident because of the frequency response of 200 - 15,000 Hz (compared to 30 - 20,000 Hz regarding the AT943/SP-CMC-8). Am I just intimidated by those numbers ? Would you recommend the AT898/SP-CMC-9 and why?

I should add that I'm not taping on a regular basis, only 3 - 6 shows a year, so I'm not good at testing different settings on the rig and also not able to invest a fortune. The shows I attend are Pop or Rock bands in different venues (from 2,000 capacity clubs to larger halls or arenas), not Metal-type super-loud shows, but still bands that play loud tracks within their show.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

[M]

The 853/943 are proven and less likely to disappoint you.  At least you know what you are getting.

[kinglerxst]

>The 853/943 are proven and less likely to disappoint you.  At least you know what you are getting.

I agree. I don't know anyone running the CMC-9, although I've heard some pretty good shows done with them. However, I do know quite a few people that run the AT943's and I have heard some excellent shows from them.

A couple other pluses for the AT943's are you can switch out the elements for different mic patterns, not sure if that's an option for the CMC-9 line (at least I didn't see any other elements listed for them). Also, with the AT adapter, you can also place the larger 853 elements on the 943 bodies and run them that way as the AT933, which is what I have run for over 10 years now.

Not to say the CMC-9's wouldn't work fine for you and hopefully some tapers that are using them might be able to shed some more light on them, but I think there's more room to try different things to obtain the sound you want with the type of music/venues you are seeing as far as the AT943's.

[Belexes]

I'd get these and opt for the low sensitivity mod:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=143254.0