Topic: Don't Judge A Book By Its Cover (Microphones)

[Javier Cinakowski]

These companies found a similar shell, but who has the best parts?

Next question on my mind is:      Are the capsules from each company compatible with bodies of another brand?   Could a Peluso capsule be used with a Charter Oak body?

(no one has had the pleasure of working with the Busman Microphones, but, they have the best paint job, so they made the survey!)

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

The only difference I would think is all the other Peluso's and Charter Oak's are pricey while the others aren't so much. (although Busman hasn't offered another model yet) so I'd imagine they are different than the Avantones and Busmans.  Hmmm.  Also the Busmans and Avantones are the same body and the Peluso's and Charter Oaks are the same. 

[Shawn]

is anyone here using charter oak mics? I'd love to hear some samples of ambient recordings done with them.

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

yet another.  Trippy.

http://www.sontronics.com/stc1s.htm

[Javier Cinakowski]

These look slightly different

[bensyverson]

Don't forget the CAD GXL1200, which is the same body as the Avant and Busman but without the pad and rolloff:


All three seem to be based on this mic:


The caps seem to be interchangeable among all of them. They're also available from the factory like this:


Personally, the Busman seems like the most promising -- of the three (Avant, Busman, CAD), only Busman modifies the electronics to improve the sound.

I do have one of the CAD mics, and I have to say, it's pretty nice. If the Busman set is an improvement, I'll be very pleased!

[bgalizio]

Are we supposed to vote based on looks or the sound? If sound, I find it very surprising that the Busman mics are currently tied with the Pelusos. As far as I know, no Busman samples "from the wild" have been released. Granted, they sound good through Chris's stereo test. Can't wait to hear some tapes made with them!

If we're voting on looks, then it's a different story.

[Krispy D]

the peluso gets my vote because it is the only one I have played with personally.

[oleg]

the same as peluso and charter  here in israel with 6 capsules( 2 hypers, 2 cards, 2 omni) - 400usd
no name , but its what make it cheaper - exctly same as sontronics  cpme from FEILO FACTORY , pne of the chinese best
i have apair i use it  for low budget jobs

http://sellbuyexchange-film-videoaudiogear.googlegroups.com/web/chiniz%20mics.zip?gda=4M8OsEAAAAC2Af0jwr3gSIsbfAS5RmpbR9m_pM1Avnrr04GtnNP7d2G1qiJ7UbTIup-M2XPURDR7FpGzTfhqSSB-jigbkFoI

[Javier Cinakowski]

Damn, I like the black, thanks Oleg...

[illconditioned]

Interesting threads.

OK, if any of you are so inclined, I'd like to see pics of the internals (guts!) of these mics.  I'm most curious about the Peluso.  In particular, are they the simple (Scheops) design, or something more complex, with an internal DC-DC converter.

Thanks,
  Richard

[rokpunk]

That CAD mic above.......I wouldn't use that thing to hammer in nails.
I bought into a CAD promotion last year and ended up with a dozen of these mics....I ended up paying somewhere around $10/ea for them, which is about $8 a piece more than they are worth. I sell them to churches who are poor and can't afford a decent condenser.

[oleg]

Damn, I like the black, thanks Oleg...

435 incl shipping to usa

sounds pretty good for what they worth (that's why peluso and charter use them )and frankly i only could imagine that the quality control what matter for the price , i checked with local distributor and he told me that the returns from musicians where under 5% , so there is some satisfaction from these .
one thing , these mics dont behave well with sd preamps -exactly the same behaivier as with blue lines and some sankens which makes the pre go to motor-boating ( known sd problem _ , so you will need use external ph suply or cut the low end ( 80 hz on mixers or 40 on 7xx)
no problem use any other as sqn , wendt , fostex , hhb a@h ( these i checked personally)and many others
the cards  and omni sounds the best , the hypers  quit good but... ( good for voice recordings)
there is  bump in 500hz range - so a bit affecting, not something you cant fix in the post or during the eq

[drewloo]

Damn, I like the black, thanks Oleg...

435 incl shipping to usa

sounds pretty good for what they worth (that's why peluso and charter use them )and frankly i only could imagine that the quality control what matter for the price , i checked with local distributor and he told me that the returns from musicians where under 5% , so there is some satisfaction from these .
one thing , these mics dont behave well with sd preamps -exactly the same behaivier as with blue lines and some sankens which makes the pre go to motor-boating ( known sd problem _ , so you will need use external ph suply or cut the low end ( 80 hz on mixers or 40 on 7xx)
no problem use any other as sqn , wendt , fostex , hhb a@h ( these i checked personally)and many others
the cards  and omni sounds the best , the hypers  quit good but... ( good for voice recordings)
there is  bump in 500hz range - so a bit affecting, not something you cant fix in the post or during the eq

I've experienced the motorblading w/ Pelusos > sd mp-2, but only just messing around at home w/ the gain up waaaay high.  It's never been as issue when recording shows (although I'm sure it could be given the right circumstances).

[oleg]

the gain is always high if you recording classical music or dialog - not really a mike problem  but the sd design