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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #330 on: September 03, 2024, 10:46:04 AM »

^ the unresponsiveness of the recorder after a certain point is concerning. Good to know that it completed saving the file before it shut itself down but not being able to get it to wake up so you could change the batteries is not great.

I like new toys and this is ridiculously small but I think I'll stick with the battery box and A10 for now. If I used DPA 4061 I would for sure be getting one of these.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #331 on: September 03, 2024, 12:24:26 PM »
Yeah, I've not yet confirmed what happens to the file currently being written if you yank the batteries while the recorder is still running but unresponsive, since at that point you're unable to properly shut it down properly. 

As mentioned, for use by my newbie recording friend while I'm away I'm probably just going to switch from 4060 to 4061, which should work for the show he is attending. Just need to unrig that 4061 pair from another setup, which is a PITA I was hoping to avoid.

May do some testing using different batteries to see if the different nominal voltage of alkaline vs NiMH vs lithium makes a difference, despite setting the menu appropriate for the battery type being used, which I suspect simply affects the calibration of the battery meter/light.  I haven't looked into this yet, but what's up with the Deity AA batteries that are supplied with the unit?  There is a special setting just for those.  Some alternate type of lithium chemistry it seems.  Anyone have insight into those?
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #332 on: September 04, 2024, 10:22:11 AM »
Looks like the Deity AA batteries are a rebrand of the lithium primary cells of the same capacity made by Nice. They have pretty typical specs of most lithium cells (i.e. Energizer) which makes me curious about the special battery setting in the recorder. Maybe these particular cells have a slightly different discharge curve.

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #333 on: September 04, 2024, 10:48:38 AM »
A couple of ebay locking "Y" adapters arrived. They are 2x female microdot > locking TRS mini plug for ~$11 ea.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #334 on: September 05, 2024, 01:10:01 AM »
^ Incredible deal. Way cheaper than cutting up those $50 pre-made cables.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #335 on: September 05, 2024, 07:35:56 AM »
^ Incredible deal. Way cheaper than cutting up those $50 pre-made cables.

But the longer microdot connectors, instead of the shorter ones more like dpa and cdi use.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #336 on: September 09, 2024, 01:50:46 PM »
Connector is about the same length as the 18 year old DPA microdot extension cables I have on hand, which are male on each end and use barrel connectors to mate with the male microdot on the mic cable. See attached photo  comparing the DPA extenstion cable (with barrel installed), next to the Ebay Y adapter (the blue jacketed cable). I can similarly compare against the CDI Int cables, but as I recall the connector lengths on them are similar.  The main differences are that the CDI cables are considerablay more flexible than the DPA extension cables  and can be orded with female microdots, eliminating the barrel connector.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #337 on: September 09, 2024, 01:56:12 PM »
This is the modern cdi/dpa female end I am way more comfortable with.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #338 on: September 09, 2024, 04:23:36 PM »
The connectors on your pair with the red heat-shrink look identical to the connectors on the Ebay Y to me.

FYI- In your photo, I consider those to be the female end (as does CDI Int when ordering cables from them), which references the the gender of the center conductor, rather than the outside threaded part (yeah, its confusing).

The locking Ebay Y's worked well in the two test outing so far.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #339 on: September 09, 2024, 04:26:10 PM »
Yeah the photo was comparing the eBay ends to the cdi ends.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #340 on: September 09, 2024, 05:18:15 PM »
I'll have to check my CDI ends, but they look different than yours.. doesn't have heat shrink wrapping around to the threads.

I ran a second test of PR2 with DPA omnis a free outdoor amphitheater show last Saturday.  Had my open rig rolling as well, so was able to play around with the PR-2 in the head-worn rig, swapping between DPA 4061 and 4060-CORE, and swapping between the Deity batteries and Energizer Lithiums (a fresh, unused pair this time), as well as moving between my open recording position, center of pit, and directly in front of a PA stack in search of highest SPL. PR2 input gain remained set to 0dB the entire time.

The 4061's worked fine, with an output level which seems appropriately matched to the input stage of the PR2.

Switching to 4060_CORE produced some audible bass distortion again, particularly when standing directly in front of the PA/subwoofer-stack in a typical close stack-taping position.  Using new batteries, the distortion at this show was significantly less bad, yet nether set of fresh lithium batteries completely eliminated the overload problem as hoped. Perceptually this concert was significantly louder than the previous test I did several weeks back at the larger amphitheater event with what turned out to be dying Energizer lithium AAs, certainly so when standing adjacent to the stack.  How loud was it? Not sure.  I used a sound meter app which hovered around 91dB while standing at the stack, but it registered approximately 90dB back at my open recording spot a few rows behind the pit and that doesn't add up.  Doesn't add up as obviously it was significantly louder directly in front of the PA.  SPL measurement was taken using a new to me Galaxy S24.. and I don't trust the SPL app.. I see no way of determining what filtering it is using, and it seems it might have been be hitting some kind of hard limit possibly imposed by the phone. Dunno.

Have yet to measure the mic power voltage out of this particular PR2.

Prior I did do a quick test comparing both sets of mics plugged directly into PR2 (at 0db input gain) verses recording via DAD6001 phantom adapters into R-44_OCM.  I used the closest equivalent input gain setting available on the R44, which was -2dB.  There was significantly increased headroom using the DAD6001 adapters powered with P48, but I've not yet quantified how much.

I now feel I've at least done enough testing to confirm use of 4061 > PR2 will be the best option for use by my newbie recording friend while I'm away.  I'll report on how well that worked out, and continue with further testing after I return mid October.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #341 on: September 10, 2024, 10:14:04 AM »
Here are a few photos of the rig configured for use by my non-taper friend. I used some "soft, quiet" techflex intended for body harnesses that is less plasticy and more of a fabric weave to manage the cables, streamline things, and make use a bit more comfortable .
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #342 on: September 10, 2024, 11:14:23 AM »
Hear are a few photos of the rig configured for use by my non-taper friend. I used some "soft, quiet" techflex intended for body harnesses that is less plasticy and more of a fabric weave to manage the cables, streamline things, and make use a bit more comfortable .
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #343 on: September 10, 2024, 01:57:53 PM »
Does the PR-2 have a Bluetooth app or not?  There's no mention of an app in the owner's manual? 

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #344 on: September 10, 2024, 02:30:36 PM »
Does the PR-2 have a Bluetooth app or not?  There's no mention of an app in the owner's manual?
The Sidus Audio app is used by the PR-2 and in my experience it works very nicely with my android phone.
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