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what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« on: February 04, 2012, 07:46:45 PM »
what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?...

Just interested to hear your opinion on the matter and if you have come across any mic that shines a little extra for outdoor shows...

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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2012, 11:06:15 AM »
hhhmmmm outdoor use....hhmmm.  I have used the AT853 omni's and really liked them.  I don't think I have used my DPA4060 outside but have heard recordings done with them outside.  I love those too.  I would love to hear the nevatons out doors and the B3's.

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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2012, 02:11:33 PM »
^^

In no particular order: DPA 406x, Countryman B3, Nevatons, CA-14 omnis.

I can say, from experience, that I've used the 4061's and the CA-14's outdoors with good results (as far back as the soundboard area at a festival show - ~200 feet).  I've also used them in 007 mode as well.  I'd say go with whatever your budget can afford.

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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 02:51:50 PM »
My 4061s are solid outdoors, but the best outdoor recording I ever made was actually with my Audix - http://www.nyctaper.com/?p=3964

Kind of a lightning-strikes-once situation but it smokes anything I've done with DPA, Schoeps, etc.

Not a small mic, but I love the sound of the AKG 414 omnis and Schoeps MK5 omnis outdoors also.
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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2012, 02:59:38 PM »
Countryman B3, for both indoor and outdoor.  Clipped to glasses, small homemade windscreen, pip to Sony M10.

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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2012, 04:37:02 PM »
Another vote for AT853 with Omni Caps...I've made PVC pipe AT853 microphone holders that fit my Clips and ran them on a 1M space bar and taped on each side to my reader glasses temple...
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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2012, 04:45:17 PM »
If you want to hear some great outdoor recordings from B3 (binaural/hrtf), check these out:
 http://soundmann.com/2009-07-26-ShaneKoyczan_clip1.mp3(spoken word, small outdoor stage)
 http://soundmann.com/2009-07-24-XavierRudd_clip1.mp3 (large outdoor stage, crazy audience)
 http://soundmann.com/2008-07-11-MollyJohnson_clip1.mp3 (large outdoor stage, calm audience)

I've found Sennheiser KE4 great too, but as far as "realism" goes, the B3 are hard to beat.  As I've said earlier, I don't like the DPA 406x.  Real sounding, but something edgy about them, at least to my ears.

By the way, I've got some older AT853O recordings, really intimate stuff, actually recorded in a studio.  These sound great, but they lack the true "being there" feel of the B3.  If I could go back in time I would have done it with B3!

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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 04:37:56 PM »
I tend to go more open as far as pattern goes when outdoors.  mk21's are my favorite.

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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 12:38:41 PM »
I am really digging the AT853 with the subcards outdoors.  Never ran the 853 omni's, but have ran 933 omni's and like the sound of the subs better.
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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2012, 02:36:12 PM »
Because they can handle a bit more wind, you'll probably get more folks preferring omni's for outdoor mics.  That said, I've made some nice outdoor recordings with AT831 cardioids (Sound Professionals SP-CMC-2).  But I don't do a lot of al fresco taping either.

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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2012, 11:10:31 PM »
Countryman B6 2nd. Choice B3

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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2012, 02:20:48 PM »
Schoeps MK4's

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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2012, 11:32:58 PM »
mk41/mk21/mk22/mk4
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2012, 10:08:59 PM »
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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2012, 10:30:51 PM »
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2012, 09:08:17 PM »
Another vote for AT853 with Omni Caps...I've made PVC pipe AT853 microphone holders that fit my Clips and ran them on a 1M space bar and taped on each side to my reader glasses temple...

Could you post some photos of your AB setup?

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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2012, 09:15:33 PM »

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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2012, 06:11:23 PM »
Thanks!

I was envisioning something smaller that you ran the bodies/cord through. Pretty impressive DIY-manship there!

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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2012, 10:50:22 AM »
mk22 + mk6 [figure 8] - m-s.
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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2012, 02:30:29 PM »
Neumann AK-40's   :)

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Re: what´s your favourite outdoor (Stealth/small) mic?
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2012, 11:00:55 PM »
I have been LOVIN my Busman setup :)
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
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