Topic: Tascam DR-5

[F.O.Bean]

Were the drums mic'd? I love the sound of the kick.

Do you think the record level control on the DR05 is post-AD converter?

The drums were mic'ed, but what you are hearing is all stage volume.   I record on-stage with omni's.   They are placed in center of the stage so the vocals and horns are being picked up from the stage monitors and the drums, bass, fiddle, guitars are being picked up from stage volume directly from the amps and drums.   The mic position definitely lends itself to great drum sounds, (they are only a few feet away in proximity) however sometimes the vocals and stage left/right guitars can get muddy depending on how good the on stage mix is.

I really have no idea about the A/D converter.   Using the external mics and preamp, the signal was quite hot, so the internal record level for me will always stay on '0' and any gain will come from the CA9100 preamp.   As mentioned earlier in this thread, my biggest concern will be with not overloading the inputs on the DR-05.  I set this recording to peak at about -20db and boosted the signal in Audacity.   No overloading on this recording, so I will likely keep the settings around the same next time out.

GREAT, thanks a bunch fpor the info. I'm going to buy one since they're so cheap. I could use it for SBD patches or as a backup recorder, since I have the M10 and all!

[dogmusic]

The drums were mic'ed, but what you are hearing is all stage volume.   I record on-stage with omni's.   They are placed in center of the stage so the vocals and horns are being picked up from the stage monitors and the drums, bass, fiddle, guitars are being picked up from stage volume directly from the amps and drums.   The mic position definitely lends itself to great drum sounds, (they are only a few feet away in proximity) however sometimes the vocals and stage left/right guitars can get muddy depending on how good the on stage mix is.

I really have no idea about the A/D converter.   Using the external mics and preamp, the signal was quite hot, so the internal record level for me will always stay on '0' and any gain will come from the CA9100 preamp.   As mentioned earlier in this thread, my biggest concern will be with not overloading the inputs on the DR-05.  I set this recording to peak at about -20db and boosted the signal in Audacity.   No overloading on this recording, so I will likely keep the settings around the same next time out.

Sounds great. How far apart were your omni mics spaced?

So, does this mean that changing the DR05 record level will only affect the digital signal, not the input?

[johnnyrockstar]

Sounds great. How far apart were your omni mics spaced?

I run the omni's split about 20cm.

[dogmusic]

Sounds great. How far apart were your omni mics spaced?

I run the omni's split about 20cm.

Thanks for that info.

I'm sorry to be so thick about this (and in fact started another thread to try and get an answer) but does the lack of a physical dial on the DR05 for record input level mean that you can only affect the level of the digital signal, i.e., post-AD converter?

Any info on that would be appreciated.

[johnnyrockstar]

no problem, i am just not certain about that issue so i don't want to say one way or the other...

[dogmusic]

no problem, i am just not certain about that issue so i don't want to say one way or the other...

I understand.

Well, anyone else know if the lack of a physical dial on the DR05 for record input level means that you can only affect the level of the digital signal, i.e., post-AD converter?

[F.O.Bean]

Were the drums mic'd? I love the sound of the kick.

Do you think the record level control on the DR05 is post-AD converter?

The drums were mic'ed, but what you are hearing is all stage volume.   I record on-stage with omni's.   They are placed in center of the stage so the vocals and horns are being picked up from the stage monitors and the drums, bass, fiddle, guitars are being picked up from stage volume directly from the amps and drums.   The mic position definitely lends itself to great drum sounds, (they are only a few feet away in proximity) however sometimes the vocals and stage left/right guitars can get muddy depending on how good the on stage mix is.

I really have no idea about the A/D converter.   Using the external mics and preamp, the signal was quite hot, so the internal record level for me will always stay on '0' and any gain will come from the CA9100 preamp.   As mentioned earlier in this thread, my biggest concern will be with not overloading the inputs on the DR-05.  I set this recording to peak at about -20db and boosted the signal in Audacity.   No overloading on this recording, so I will likely keep the settings around the same next time out.

That sample of Back Forty sounds AWESOME. I listened to the "Suzie" song! I left a review on the LMA

I was going to sell my R09, and get this Tascam DR-05, but since I now have a Sony PCM-M10, I might forgo getting the Tascam and just keep the R09. I am pretty much broke until mid-April, and DESPERATELY need the $$, but still might keep the R09, for SBD patches and patches from other tapers Not exactly sure what to do w/ the R09 at this point, since I now have an M10, and LOVE the M10 already?!?! I just want the DR-05 because its new

[jbell]

^ if you have an m10 I wouldn't was money  on the tascam!!!

[F.O.Bean]

^ if you have an m10 I wouldn't was money  on the tascam!!!

Yeah, I kinda feel the same way. I just like it because its new and because it looks cool, and simple

[johnnyrockstar]

here's another, 24 bit this time:

http://www.archive.org/details/bk402011-04-16

[Gutbucket]

They got a bundle of different recorders, and none of them are too great for concert recording IME (DR-680 being the exception).

They keep coming out with recorders and I keep looking into them them wondering if they have a good, small, 2ch option.  The DR-5 takes a max ext/line input of -4dbV, which is consistent with most of their products it seems (can't remember, maybe outside the DR6880 some models take something like a max of +2dbu ??).

Max input level of the DR2d line input = +6dBV
However the max input level for its mic input = -16dBV

It would be prefereable if there was a menu selectable setting to switch the mic-input to line-level sensitivity for use with two external preamps (the only way I use the DR2d) or with one external preamp + SBD feed (how I imagine many others would use it.  I run SBD feeds into the 680, R44, or R09 and have never tried to patch one into the DR2d).

[BitRater]

used the DR-05 for the first time on st. patty's.   my usual CA14 omnis > CA9100 > DRxx (44/16)   had the recorder preamp set to 0, and the CA-9100 on less than half way up to get a good level so i can't see ever needing the preamp gain from the DR-05 unless using the built in mics.

also on a good note, i had the recorder powered up for 5-6 hours total with the 'stock' batteries and still is at full power.  that's a promising sign for some great battery life.

audio to come....

Sounds like TASCAM took all the complaints about the DR-07's mediocre battery life to heart. Mine just eats batteries, and I don't even have to use it that much!

[jbou]

johnnyrockstar, any update on how the DR-05 is working out for you? I'm thinking about getting one because of its attractive price. I know everyone will say to save for a Sony M10, and I would love an M10, but if I wait for one I won't have a recorder for a while.

[newplanet7]

http://www.archive.org/details/bk402011-05-27

Love the old crow medicine show cover!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mutha funkin' wagon wheel son!

[jbou]

To be more specific I was wondering if you had run into problems overloading the mic in. When the DR-05 came out, that seemed to be the biggest concern. I'll have to check out some more shows you have uploaded. But from what I've listened to they sound good!