Topic: Edirol R-09

[pfife]

I'm a lot less impressed after watching the video than I hoped I would be (although I do love that screen!)...the demo just made it even more glaringly obvious to me how many ways it falls short of the MT for everything that it did right. Is it that hard for someone to take a step forward in designing these things without taking two back???

Craig

Could expand on your observation?

yeah, to me, it looks like a total upgrade over my R-1, and I'm pretty enthused about it, as long as it can use 4gb cards.  What's your issue with it?

[hyperplane]

to me, the only real "drawbacks" i see with the R-09, thus far, are as follows:

1) no support for 4 GB (yet... though i'm sure they will come through with it)
2) because of the above, there's surely no auto-split feature yet (but perhaps it will be included with 4 GB support, via firmware update)
3) no digital input

as mentioned, i really think they will update the R-09 with some firmware so that 4 GB cards will be taken. even if they do not include an auto split, if the R-09 is as quick as the R-1 for stopping/starting a new file, it's only a couple of seconds of crowd noise lost. again, not a big deal to me. and for the third item, for those who don't run an ADC in front of the recorder, again not a big deal.

yes, it is a shame there's no digital input, but if the quality of the internal ADC is that of the R-1, i'll be quite satisfied.

[pfife]

to me, the only real "drawbacks" i see with the R-09, thus far, are as follows:

1) no support for 4 GB (yet... though i'm sure they will come through with it)
2) because of the above, there's surely no auto-split feature yet (but perhaps it will be included with 4 GB support, via firmware update)
3) no digital input

as mentioned, i really think they will update the R-09 with some firmware so that 4 GB cards will be taken. even if they do not include an auto split, if the R-09 is as quick as the R-1 for stopping/starting a new file, it's only a couple of seconds of crowd noise lost. again, not a big deal to me. and for the third item, for those who don't run an ADC in front of the recorder, again not a big deal.

yes, it is a shame there's no digital input, but if the quality of the internal ADC is that of the R-1, i'll be quite satisfied.

This pretty much sums up my opinion exactly.  +T  Oh, and its 48khz, whereas the R-1 is only 44.1khz.

[neutrino]

I'm a lot less impressed after watching the video than I hoped I would be (although I do love that screen!)...the demo just made it even more glaringly obvious to me how many ways it falls short of the MT for everything that it did right. Is it that hard for someone to take a step forward in designing these things without taking two back???

Craig

Could expand on your observation?

yeah, to me, it looks like a total upgrade over my R-1, and I'm pretty enthused about it, as long as it can use 4gb cards.  What's your issue with it?

Are you considering it a "total upgrade" merely for the fact that it's smaller and does 24/48 over the 24/44.1 capability of the R1? Or am I missing something?
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[aberg]

I'm a lot less impressed after watching the video than I hoped I would be (although I do love that screen!)...the demo just made it even more glaringly obvious to me how many ways it falls short of the MT for everything that it did right. Is it that hard for someone to take a step forward in designing these things without taking two back???

Craig

Could expand on your observation?

yeah, to me, it looks like a total upgrade over my R-1, and I'm pretty enthused about it, as long as it can use 4gb cards.  What's your issue with it?

Are you considering it a "total upgrade" merely for the fact that it's smaller and does 24/48 over the 24/44.1 capability of the R1? Or am I missing something?
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That's about how I see it too. I will not be "upgrading" to the R-09. As far as I'm concerned, the R-1 will provide me with the exact same features that I'll be needing, and I don't feel like moving to SD cards cuz it's just a pain to have to buy new cards... etc.

[pfife]

I very much want to be able to record at 24/48.  I see it as an upgrade for that, individual level meters, smaller size... Don't get me wrong, I really dig the R-1, but I'm gonna move to this when it comes out if the 4gb card issue is fixed.

[Zaphod]

I very much want to be able to record at 24/48.  I see it as an upgrade for that, individual level meters, smaller size... Don't get me wrong, I really dig the R-1, but I'm gonna move to this when it comes out if the 4gb card issue is fixed.

I'm not sure if I should hold out for a possible Oade modded R-09 or if I shold get an R1, but I thing I have to ask...

If they haven't fixed the 4GB issue with the R1 why would they be any faster in getting it done for the R-09? 

[Evil Taper]

the manual says that the R1 only accepts 2GB cards but I've been using a 4GB card with mine and haven't had ANY compatability issues with it

[pfife]

the manual says that the R1 only accepts 2GB cards but I've been using a 4GB card with mine and haven't had ANY compatability issues with it

Yup.  You can use a 4gb card in an R-1.

[Zaphod]

the manual says that the R1 only accepts 2GB cards but I've been using a 4GB card with mine and haven't had ANY compatability issues with it

Yup.  You can use a 4gb card in an R-1.

Have they implimentd an auto-file split feature for the R1? That's what I was referring to

If 4GB cards are compatable with the R-09 then it will be a good replacement for the R1 for sure.

[WiFiJeff]

the manual says that the R1 only accepts 2GB cards but I've been using a 4GB card with mine and haven't had ANY compatability issues with it

Yup.  You can use a 4gb card in an R-1.

Sandisk Ultra 8 GB card works too.

Jeff

[spyder9]

I think the R09 will be rock solid, just like the R1.  Notice, you hardly see any "problem" threads regarding R1, but there seems to be a new one for the Microtrack everyday.  The digital input is not enough to sway me to buy one.

[hyperplane]

I very much want to be able to record at 24/48.  I see it as an upgrade for that, individual level meters, smaller size... Don't get me wrong, I really dig the R-1, but I'm gonna move to this when it comes out if the 4gb card issue is fixed.

i feel the same way. +T back to you, pfife. at 24/48, no upsampling required: you can make a DVD-V disc with Audio DVD Creator (which will have more player compatibility than a DVD-A disc at 24/44.1).

i've had no troubles stealthing with the R-1, but the smaller size will be nice. and let's not forget, if the R-09 is as reliable as the R-1, the R-09 should make a great little recorder. i'm getting stoked for this 2nd gen. R-1 (the R-09).


Zaphod - no, Edirol did not implement an auto split feature for the R-1. sort of a shame, but they are probably thinking, "it works well, why try to add features"... and apparently they have been working on making the R-09, so...

[gewwang]

i've had no troubles stealthing with the R-1, but the smaller size will be nice. and let's not forget, if the R-09 is as reliable as the R-1, the R-09 should make a great little recorder. i'm getting stoked for this 2nd gen. R-1 (the R-09).

The form factor alone is reason enough to replace the R1. This thing appears to be the size of a cell phone. The R1 is a pain in the ass to take out of your front pocket for level checking or starting a new file.

[udovdh]

What about the analog input path,  and impedance, SNR, THD, etc?
Any info known?
Battery life?