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What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« on: April 04, 2009, 02:13:10 PM »
Hi.
I wish buy Microtrack II to recorder U2's live concert (in Stadium).  8)
What do I need?
1. About microphones, I think I buy SP-CMC-8. Is it ok?
2. Is it important MicroTrack 10db Mic Pad 10 db Mic Attenuator?
3. About accessories, what do I need for a EXCELLENT recording?
Best regards

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2009, 03:46:41 PM »
you don't need the -10 pad
grab the mics and a battery box to go with them
record away
many others here like the church audio gear and his preamp with his mics or the sp ones will be better then a battery box

thats not to say you will get great recordings (lots of other mics could be better like dpa, location and other things go into a great recording) but it will def get you started

many others here like the church audio gear and his preamp with his mics or the sp ones will be better then a battery box
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2009, 04:14:07 PM »
Ok, thank you.
What is "a battery box"? (sorry for my question)

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2009, 06:06:20 PM »
Simply speaking, battery box supplies power to the mics, necessary to prevent "brickwall" of loud shows (generally over 90 db would require bb, so U2 would need one for sure)

to get "excellent" stadium recording using simple gear is pretty doubtful, of course depends on what you mean by "excellent".
It will help to get a better recording if you get closer to the speakers, but of course, must be set up to handle loudness.....

« Last Edit: April 04, 2009, 06:09:22 PM by mr qpl »

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2009, 03:55:37 AM »
For example, what battery box do I need?
Is this a battery box?
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-SPSB-10
Sorry for my question, I don't understand, you are very kindly, please help me what I must buy.
Recorder + michrophones + ?
« Last Edit: April 05, 2009, 03:57:41 AM by ificould »

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2009, 09:41:14 AM »
that is a battery box
here is another one they have, which i use and know works http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-SPSB-1
the one you linked is 12v this one i linked is 9v, not sure if it makes a difference or not
also the one you linked runs on a 12v battery (not sure how easy they are to find in stores - never looked), the one i linked runs on a standard 9v battery which can be found anywhere so in a pinch you may be better off
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2009, 03:38:56 PM »
Oh, thank you!
I wish recorder 9 shows. About battery box, can I record concerts without changing the battery? How long does the battery last? It says "Power module has 30-50 hour battery life, depending on microphones used", is it right?
Willndmb are very kindly, I thank you for the help  :D

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2009, 05:15:19 PM »
i never got anywhere near the time they said on a battery
let me state that a different way - i got the amount of time they projected, but the overall power drops and thus doesn't give you good power and caused me to learn the hard way on some recordings
i have done 3 shows (approx 8.5hrs) on one battery without issue but wouldn't go over that
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2009, 03:16:01 AM »
I use a MicroTrack II, have had it for nearly 6 months. I have not had any problems with the battery running flat. You should be ok for any normal length show. What's normal, I know. I have recorded the support and main act with no ill effect. If necessary you can get battery back up. I have an Energizer Energytogo back up. I bought it to take to ATP, for the weekend, but forgot to pack it, I managed nevertheless. It's to power mobile phones, make sure you get one with the right connector for the MicroTrack. The mini USB underneath.

If you're recording shows and you haven't done it before, I strongly recommend going out and getting some practise. Same applys to new recording gear, you've got to get to know it before the main event.

I was interested to see a recommendation of reformatting your CF cards after use, to avoid the controls becoming frozen. Something I will start doing after such an incident last week.

Good luck with your purchase(s)
jimcooke.

Using:- 2 x Sony ECM 50 mics> Microtrack II>8GB SanDisk Ultra II CF ( I usually use Core Sound Mics but there in getting fixed)

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2009, 09:49:54 AM »
Thank you willndmb and jimcooke!  :D
Thank you for your help!

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2009, 11:35:33 AM »
i think jim is talking about the battery in the MT, i was talking about the battery in the battery box
fwiw i 100% of the time had to run a external power supply (4 AA box) for the MT1 to make it 3hrs
but again the battery box i have can go about 8hr or so on one 9v
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2009, 11:47:22 AM »
I found that if you unplug the mics from the battery box, it lasts 6 + months (maybe 15 to 20 shows?) this is 9v bbox, either coresound or sound pros. I like the  sound pro sp3 box, it;s cheap and efficient.

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2009, 07:25:18 AM »
About external power (Microtrack II), what do you recommend? I need 3 hours.

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2009, 09:13:47 AM »
i use a $5 4AA box with usb plug
many others use something like this http://www.amazon.com/iphone-ipod-lithium-External-battery/dp/B000YOXTHI/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1239109911&sr=8-9
you just need one that allows you to change the plug aqs i am 99% sure all usb outputs 5v - which you need
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: What I need for Microtrack II to recorder in Stadium
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2009, 09:42:50 AM »
i think jim is talking about the battery in the MT, i was talking about the battery in the battery box
fwiw i 100% of the time had to run a external power supply (4 AA box) for the MT1 to make it 3hrs
but again the battery box i have can go about 8hr or so on one 9v
Sorry I got the wrong end of the stick.
I change the battery in the battery box once a year, haven't had a problem there. Just unplug connections when not using, as mentioned.
Jimcooke

 

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