Topic: Flac 1.3.0 Released

[kcmule]

FLAC is just an audio codec and as such, I don't think it's FLAC's responsibility to make sure your audio files are aligned to any other format's sectors.

^^ THIS.

I know FLAC has supported it but it's not truly a responsibility of FLAC but rather the front-end that you're using.  I'm sure TLH will add this feature for those who need it.

How do you propose any front-end mechanism provides a feature that is removed from the back-end?

[Gil]

Is anyone really still relying on a track cutting tool that doesn't cut on sector?

No, but even when using CD Wave, the last track of a set usually ends with a SBE as it's not my deck's responsibility to end on a sector.

And I'd rather check the fix SBE box on the encode than make an extremely short track in CD Wave only to toss it.

[scb]

How do you propose any front-end mechanism provides a feature that is removed from the back-end?

huh?

[kcmule]

How do you propose any front-end mechanism provides a feature that is removed from the back-end?

huh?

Considering the front end is simply an interface to what is defined in by the back end, if a feature
of the back end is removed how is the front end going to enable it?  It's not.

So how it TLH going to add something that isn't there to begin with?  It's not.

[scb]

How do you propose any front-end mechanism provides a feature that is removed from the back-end?

huh?

Considering the front end is simply an interface to what is defined in by the back end, if a feature
of the back end is removed how is the front end going to enable it?  It's not.

So how it TLH going to add something that isn't there to begin with?  It's not.

In the specific case of TLH, it can use shntool. Problem solved.

In the case of other apps that actually use the flac libraries and don't just call the command-line flac executable, they can manipulate the audio data themselves when encoding, just like shntool does.

[kcmule]

In the case of other apps that actually use the flac libraries and don't just call the command-line flac executable,

I was under the impression that is what happens, simply called the command line exe.  Guess not.

[spyder9]

Is anyone really still relying on a track cutting tool that doesn't cut on sector?

Seems double redundant...

Yes.  Me.  I use Totalrecorder as my cutter for speed purposes. 

[spyder9]

FLAC is just an audio codec and as such, I don't think it's FLAC's responsibility to make sure your audio files are aligned to any other format's sectors.

You're correct.  FLAC is just a codec, not a tool.  That's why I use TLH for sector alignment. 

[spyder9]

http://flacfrontend.sourceforge.net/

Flac Frontend no longer has sector alignment.  Check out the pictures.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

No, but even when using CD Wave, the last track of a set usually ends with a SBE as it's not my deck's responsibility to end on a sector.

And I'd rather check the fix SBE box on the encode than make an extremely short track in CD Wave only to toss it.

I've always cut off the first x:xx.xx and last x:xx.xx with CDWave (so a 10 track set has 12 tracks after done with CDWave - delete Track 1 and Track 12).  That will take care of the SBE at the very end (nice clean edges).

I'm not really a fan of the SBE fix in TLH.  The main (and probably only) reason being that it made it too easy for people to "fix" their SBEs incorrectly, ie people would fix the last SBE on the last track of first set by padding with the first track of second set rather than doing so with silence... 

I've always used SHNTOOLs for SBEs...

Terry

[Gil]

No, but even when using CD Wave, the last track of a set usually ends with a SBE as it's not my deck's responsibility to end on a sector.

And I'd rather check the fix SBE box on the encode than make an extremely short track in CD Wave only to toss it.

I've always cut off the first x:xx.xx and last x:xx.xx with CDWave (so a 10 track set has 12 tracks after done with CDWave - delete Track 1 and Track 12).  That will take care of the SBE at the very end (nice clean edges).

I'm not really a fan of the SBE fix in TLH.  The main (and probably only) reason being that it made it too easy for people to "fix" their SBEs incorrectly, ie people would fix the last SBE on the last track of first set by padding with the first track of second set rather than doing so with silence... 

I've always used SHNTOOLs for SBEs...

Terry

Good point. I do it set by set to avoid any issues.

[stevetoney]

This is the nerd-iest thread I've read in awhile on TS.com.   

[fsulloway]

This is the nerd-iest thread I've read in awhile on TS.com.   

yeah, I pretty much understood about 25% of what was going on. hahaha 

[morst]

Maybe they're just acknowledging that at some point in the future, hacks specific to 16/44.1 may go away

Or the Audio CD format in general...

I certainly hope so! 16/441 should go jump in a lake ASAP!!!