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portable recorder for "field recordings"
« on: September 27, 2004, 07:36:04 AM »
Hi !

i am searching for a nice portable recorder (md/whatever) to record mostly sounds from nature.
i hope there are some people here, who do same things like me...

I don´t have that much money these days - so i was looking at the more budget ones, and heard about the hi-md´s ... i guess these are not the best when i comes to good microphon preamps etc.. but i like the fact that hi-md can record in uncompressed pcm format. However i don´t know much about them, so any comments and recommendations would be very welcome!

If there is a alternative to (hi)-md recorders please let me know! But, remember i don´t have the money for the BIG ones.

btw.: i currently use OKM2 Microphones, which are a bit noisy but they are ok for the price. Maybe i pick up better ones later..

and i just found a site where they sell portable preamps:
http://www.microphonemadness.com/categories/preamplifiers_stereo.html

what do you think about those?


hope you can help a little. afterall i am not That experienced...
cheers  ;D

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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings"
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2004, 10:50:00 AM »
Go with a Creative Labs Nomad Jukebox 3 (if you can find one).

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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings"
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2004, 03:56:17 PM »
thanx!
it does not have a mic-input right?
otherwise it looks not bad, but how do you use it with mic´s ?

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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings"
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2004, 03:59:30 PM »
it has mic in and line in in the same jack, also, the optical in is there too, its def a versatile input :)

BUT, id run line in and get some line transformers which would get you sufficient gain and make up for running line in instead of mic in :)
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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings"
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2004, 04:37:19 PM »
ah  :) ok i will have closer look at this jb3 thing. Thanks for suggestions !!!

btw: i´m glad i found this nice forum here  :-*

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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings" [ jb3 - the one and only ? ]
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2004, 05:52:33 PM »
okaaaaaaaaaaaaay ! i did a little search on this forum here and noticed that everybody like the jb3. Well i am completly new to this units, since the only recorder i ever had was a simple sony md .... hope you have the nerve to answer some more questions  ;D

-are there any disadvantages about the jb3 ?
-is this the only recorder that can record *wav files ? or is it just the best for the price ?
-when was that thing released - it´s hard to find it in stores - is it a older one ?
-any good reviews outhere?
-is there anything i should check out before buying a jb3 ? maybe firmware of older ones ? anything that i should check, when buying it second hand maybe ...
-are you using it mostly with a preamp ( i would like to record silent things too )

hmm... guess thats enough for now



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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings"
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2004, 06:13:11 PM »
Have you browsed the NJB3 FAQs yet?

http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?board=14;action=display;threadid=16338

It is the only unit that currently records to .wav that is reliable. And yes it has been discontinued so you have to try and find a refurb off of eBay.
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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings"
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2004, 07:19:05 PM »
great! thanks a lot !

i guess i will go for a JB  :D

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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings"
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2004, 11:19:26 PM »
you will need a pre for the jb3.  The mic input setting is unusable because it severely rolls off the high frequencies.
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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings"
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2004, 06:24:40 PM »
i'd definately recomend having a preamp for the jb3 ... but line transformers might do a good job, i dont have any experaince with them. But if you can afford it, get a preamp.
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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings"
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2004, 11:47:31 AM »
just received my jb3 :)

so i am just looking for some infos about it here.

btw.: is it normal that some audiotracks are on the hd when it´s new?


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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings"
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2004, 02:11:07 PM »
Yes it comes pre-installed that way.
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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings"
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2004, 05:03:23 PM »
ok. thanks. i just wanted to get sure that this is a new / unused unit...

well .. i have the jb just for a couple of hours now, but i think i need a preamp, since i have to boost levels +48 always!
i connected 2 mics on "Line IN" of jb3, and recorded some sounds.

first thing i noticed when boosting in-levels was a high noisefloor.
a highpitched sound and humming stuff...

i also did firmware update and installed this new software called " nomad explorer "
i transfered those recordings from jb to pc via usb and opened it in sound forge ( audio editor )

afterall those recordings are useless  :-\

i hope i get better results with a micpre or something? i am no expert about these stuff, so any help would be very welcome...
i guess i could also use a micpre with build in A/D converters and use optical in on jb3, for even better results- right?

are there any tips for doing better recordings sofar?

thanks!
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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings"
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2004, 07:18:44 PM »
for the best results, hands down, get a pre/ad all in one box if possible, you really need that digital in, it does wonders ;D
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Re: portable recorder for "field recordings"
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2004, 07:33:46 PM »
ok. Is there a small one for less then 200€ ? otherwise i have to sell the jb3, i think  :'(

 

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