Topic: Poll: New Tapeless Gear

[nic]

Size for one thing.  The FR2 is huge.  The 722 is a tad smaller than the v3.  Also the 722, like all other Sound Devices units, will be basically indestructible.  They are built like tanks.  Laptop hard drives are used over flash drives or 1.8" hds, which means you get way more space and don't have to worry about running out at a show. 

I'm sure there's more,  but that's why I want a 722 over an fr2.

size isn't a big concern to me as the FR2 is still smaller than a laptop.
I realize SD products are built like tanks...I own a MP2 
I would be recording at 24/48(or 44.1) so space isn't a issue, plus the 1.8" drives are pretty cheap, not to mention easily added to a DAW via PC Card reader.

I just dont like the ergonomics of the 722/744. way too many leds on the front and everything is bnc connections so you need adapters, etc. . .
I'm sure SD will get the firewire issue fixed before release, but the 'plusses'  do not, imo, justify its $1000 increase over a modFR2 as of yet.
hopefully we will know more when it is actually released/fully tested.

[Sean Gallemore]

Size for one thing.  The FR2 is huge.  The 722 is a tad smaller than the v3.  Also the 722, like all other Sound Devices units, will be basically indestructible.  They are built like tanks.  Laptop hard drives are used over flash drives or 1.8" hds, which means you get way more space and don't have to worry about running out at a show. 

I'm sure there's more,  but that's why I want a 722 over an fr2.

size isn't a big concern to me as the FR2 is still smaller than a laptop.
I realize SD products are built like tanks...I own a MP2 
I would be recording at 24/48(or 44.1) so space isn't a issue, plus the 1.8" drives are pretty cheap, not to mention easily added to a DAW via PC Card reader.

I just dont like the ergonomics of the 722/744. way too many leds on the front and everything is bnc connections so you need adapters, etc. . .
I'm sure SD will get the firewire issue fixed before release, but the 'plusses'  do not, imo, justify its $1000 increase over a modFR2 as of yet.
hopefully we will know more when it is actually released/fully tested.

where do you get $1000 from?  I swear there was just a thread disproving this misnomer.

[nic]

sorry, $800

[Govt Mule]

I still think it would be more like a difference of $600-700 to get comparable storage, power, and mods.


I am on the list for a 722

[nic]

I still think it would be more like a difference of $600-700 to get comparable storage, power, and mods.
I am on the list for a 722

isnt the modFR2 <$1600?  according to Sonic Sense, the 722 is right at $2400

you're not going to be able to get comparable storage between the 2 units.
the biggest drive you can currently get for the FR2 is the 5GB 1.8" PC Card drive, unless NicksPicks HD hack works. . .
if you don't record at 24/96 than you wont need multiple cards which saves $$

[wbrisette]

OK, who is the wise crack? I know I put the Cantar X on the list, but seriously who has 15K to spend on a multi-track unit? It's a way cool machine, but I don't know too many people (even film techs) who can afford one of these babies.

Wayne
(who got approval from the spouse to be put on the 744T list)

[Sean Gallemore]

I still think it would be more like a difference of $600-700 to get comparable storage, power, and mods.
I am on the list for a 722

isnt the modFR2 <$1600?  according to Sonic Sense, the 722 is right at $2400

you're not going to be able to get comparable storage between the 2 units.
the biggest drive you can currently get for the FR2 is the 5GB 1.8" PC Card drive, unless NicksPicks HD hack works. . .
if you don't record at 24/96 than you wont need multiple cards which saves $$

no one's trying to convince you.  Go join daryan

[John Kelly]

Size for one thing.  The FR2 is huge.  The 722 is a tad smaller than the v3.  Also the 722, like all other Sound Devices units, will be basically indestructible.  They are built like tanks.  Laptop hard drives are used over flash drives or 1.8" hds, which means you get way more space and don't have to worry about running out at a show. 

I'm sure there's more,  but that's why I want a 722 over an fr2.

size isn't a big concern to me as the FR2 is still smaller than a laptop.

It's about 2x the size of my current laptop.  That thing is huge.

And it's definitely a lot bigger than those sony laptops a lot of tapers use.

[Lil Kim Jong-Il]

I voted FR2, but it would be a Oade moded unit, not stock.
I really just dont see the advantages of the 722 over the modFR2.

can someone expound on what the 722 would have above the modFR2?

internal 60G HD
internal power capacity
size

mostly the big HD.  60G of flash cards is alot of money or bring a laptop to the festival to dump your cards. 

also with the big capacity drive, you can start a 24/96 recording and stuff the recorder into your jeans for stealth situations.   With the FR2 and a current generation flash card, you may have to swap media to do that.

If it weren't for those things, I would have already blown off SD.

[jpschust]

I voted FR2, but it would be a Oade moded unit, not stock.
I really just dont see the advantages of the 722 over the modFR2.

can someone expound on what the 722 would have above the modFR2?

internal 60G HD
internal power capacity
size

mostly the big HD.  60G of flash cards is alot of money or bring a laptop to the festival to dump your cards. 

also with the big capacity drive, you can start a 24/96 recording and stuff the recorder into your jeans for stealth situations.   With the FR2 and a current generation flash card, you may have to swap media to do that.

If it weren't for those things, I would have already blown off SD.

don't forget quality of the build.  you know that none of the SD stuff is going to be made of plastic- it will all be metal.

[lds490]

PDA is definitely the cheapest and most stealthable recording system. 

You can pick up an IPAQ-based  stealth rig with a 4 GB CF card that will record 24/96 for about $850.  4 GB at 24/96 gives you about 120 minutes of recording time and it fits in the palm of your hand.  Or you can add a 40 GB hard drive for an addition $200.

This gear is definitely NOT built like a tank.  If you can deal with semi-fragile gear, it it a good option.

[Brian Skalinder]

Other:  a recorder-only tank-like box (no pre, no ADC) that supports 24/96.

[Simp-Dawg]

i voted cantar because it looks cool as hell.  no way i'd ever be able to afford it.

[BobW]

I still think it would be more like a difference of $600-700 to get comparable storage, power, and mods.
I am on the list for a 722

isnt the modFR2 <$1600?  according to Sonic Sense, the 722 is right at $2400

you're not going to be able to get comparable storage between the 2 units.
the biggest drive you can currently get for the FR2 is the 5GB 1.8" PC Card drive, unless NicksPicks HD hack works. . .
if you don't record at 24/96 than you wont need multiple cards which saves $$

no one's trying to convince you.  Go join daryan

And a multitude of others....
The FR-2 is outright FUN to record with.
Meters, switchable lights, goes dark to one red led.
Runs 24/48 over 7hrs on a laptop battery+the internal AA cells and one 5GB hard drive.

The hard drive plugs into your workstation for archiving to DVD and manipulation in Wavelab/SF/Waves/whatever.
Some of the downside is that you'd never stealth it unless you are really tricky & the stock built-in preamp won't make you write home to the folks about it.

You could do worse.
I'm sure that better boxes will make it to the street.......someday   

[Sean Gallemore]

I'm sure that better boxes will make it to the street.......someday   

yep, as soon as the SD722 starts shipping