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CHURCH-AUDIO

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I love the JB3 damit
« on: March 13, 2006, 07:40:10 PM »
I love this thing I just got it and I have to say it rocks. I just upgraded the hard drive from the 20 to a 40 and it works like a charm. Got the new firmware ver 1.40 and its great. Many new features added it was a pain in the ass to upgrade from ver1.10 though. But I got the old driver and everything was great. Wow the only thing I notice is the monitoring of a recording is noisy but the recording when played back is dead quiet. Anyway I thought I would share my new found love for the JB3 with ya all.

Chris Church
PS.... A friend of mine owns MP3.COM and he makes batteries for the Archos I am going to talk to him about making a battery for this thing.
I am sure there would be people lined up around the corner

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Re: I love the JB3 damit
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2006, 07:43:49 PM »
JB3 rules for me too!  :coolguy:
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Re: I love the JB3 damit
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2006, 07:50:21 PM »
Quote from: CHURCH-AUDIO on March 13, 2006, 07:40:10 PM
I love this thing I just got it and I have to say it rocks. I just upgraded the hard drive from the 20 to a 40 and it works like a charm. Got the new firmware ver 1.40 and its great. Many new features added it was a pain in the ass to upgrade from ver1.10 though. But I got the old driver and everything was great. Wow the only thing I notice is the monitoring of a recording is noisy but the recording when played back is dead quiet. Anyway I thought I would share my new found love for the JB3 with ya all.

Chris Church
PS.... A friend of mine owns MP3.COM and he makes batteries for the Archos I am going to talk to him about making a battery for this thing.
I am sure there would be people lined up around the corner




Chris, there are many many threads about JB3 power here...people have gotten more than enough juice from the power runner batts and other solutions.

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Re: I love the JB3 damit
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2006, 09:55:18 PM »
show your buddy the prices the extra batts snatch on ebay, should help get him motivated.

you can easily power it with an external pack of some sorts, but for stealthing its so nice not to have one more thing to get in and carry on you
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Re: I love the JB3 damit
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2006, 10:05:14 PM »
Quote from: CHURCH-AUDIO on March 13, 2006, 07:40:10 PM
I love this thing I just got it and I have to say it rocks. I just upgraded the hard drive from the 20 to a 40 and it works like a charm. Got the new firmware ver 1.40 and its great. Many new features added it was a pain in the ass to upgrade from ver1.10 though. But I got the old driver and everything was great. Wow the only thing I notice is the monitoring of a recording is noisy but the recording when played back is dead quiet. Anyway I thought I would share my new found love for the JB3 with ya all.

Chris Church
PS.... A friend of mine owns MP3.COM and he makes batteries for the Archos I am going to talk to him about making a battery for this thing.
I am sure there would be people lined up around the corner



I would not recommend this for analog recording.  The ADC is reasonable, but not great.  But the problem is that every so often you can hear hard drive noises on the recording.  A high-pitched whine/buzz every 30 seconds or so.  I'm not suprised, since everything is so closely packed in there.  What suprises me is people using really high end gear (Neumann, Scheops, etc) then putting into analog in on a NJB3 or similar.

For digital recording this thing rules though.  With an external battery pack and a decent ADC in front, it is great, especially for festivals, etc.  Just leave it running in "continuous" mode.

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Re: I love the JB3 damit
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2006, 10:10:35 PM »
My JB3 really smoked it @ Vegoose, no doubt.
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Re: I love the JB3 damit
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2006, 10:11:49 PM »
For the record  -some- people have had issues with HD noise...

I acknowledge the problem - I believe its there - but I also wonder if certain units are more prone to this noise...they cant all have the SAME exact HD in there...?

I dont go analog very often - the only stealth job I did - came out really low level - I tried and tried to hear some HD noise - even after 20 something db of gain added...

Is there a spectral that shows what the noise looks like? It might be easier to see - than hear...
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Re: I love the JB3 damit
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2006, 10:14:39 PM »
Quote from: poorlyconditioned on March 13, 2006, 10:05:14 PM

For digital recording this thing rules though.  With an external battery pack and a decent ADC in front, it is great, especially for festivals, etc.  Just leave it running in "continuous" mode.

  Richard


Just remember the split is at the 3 hour mark and that it is NOT seamless. If you hit the 3 hour mark in the middle of a song, you will lose a few seconds of music.
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Re: I love the JB3 damit
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2006, 10:23:01 PM »
Its funny you should be talking about this I just replaced the harddrive with a new hitachi guess what? no whining noise. GONE the fujitsu drive that comes stock sucks because its too noisy. Think about this the fugitsu drive is made in 2002 on my JB3. Things have come along way in drive technoligy like less power consumption and much better drive electronics the hitachi drive that I had came from a Neuros video recorder a  new one it had a broken screen so I ditched the rest and tore out the harddrive. And its very quiet now. So i suggest for the guys like me that dont want to go in via digital to take a close look at the internal JB3 harddrive and replace it with a good hitachi or something simmilar maybe even a nice WD if they make a 2.5.

Chris Church


Quote from: Roving Sign on March 13, 2006, 10:11:49 PM
For the record  -some- people have had issues with HD noise...

I acknowledge the problem - I believe its there - but I also wonder if certain units are more prone to this noise...they cant all have the SAME exact HD in there...?

I dont go analog very often - the only stealth job I did - came out really low level - I tried and tried to hear some HD noise - even after 20 something db of gain added...

Is there a spectral that shows what the noise looks like? It might be easier to see - than hear...
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2006, 10:26:54 PM »
Chris - do you have model # on the drive you used...?

I've been suspicious of the drives since people started reporting this noise...
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Re: I love the JB3 damit
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2006, 10:40:52 PM »
ive used my jb3 didg-in HUNDREDS of sets/times and it has only had weird glitches maybe twice,a nd they were user error

what im saying is, take care of the HD in it and it will take care of you ;D plus 16-bit firewire transfers are the SHIT ;D 8)
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Re: I love the JB3 damit
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2006, 10:45:54 PM »
Quote from: Bean on March 13, 2006, 10:40:52 PM
16-bit firewire transfers are the SHIT ;D 8)

so true, I've been having the same revelation Nick Pick's had, if I'm making a PA tape, especially in an indoor venue, I almost prefer 16-bit, especially when you factor in transfer time, flac time, dither time, etc. etc.
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Re: I love the JB3 damit
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2006, 10:47:55 PM »
Quote from: Chanher on March 13, 2006, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: Bean on March 13, 2006, 10:40:52 PM
16-bit firewire transfers are the SHIT ;D 8)

so true, I've been having the same revelation Nick Pick's had, if I'm making a PA tape, especially in an indoor venue, I almost prefer 16-bit, especially when you factor in transfer time, flac time, dither time, etc. etc.

after hearing v3>modsbm1, my ears definitely might prefer 16-bit most of the time

as much as i wanna go 24-bit, alot of me says WHY? i record in bars/clubs mostly :)
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2006, 10:48:51 PM »
We're talkin' analog-input here Bean...

But yeah - I just got the firewire card about a month ago - Rocks...dreamy fast!

Agree on the 24 bit thing...the sonic issues arent the issue...its all the extra CPU cycles...

I just started feeling like Im pretty fast in the 16 bit turnaround...

24 bits and I'll never get anything done!!!

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Re: I love the JB3 damit
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2006, 11:04:58 PM »
Quote from: Bean on March 13, 2006, 10:47:55 PM
Quote from: Chanher on March 13, 2006, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: Bean on March 13, 2006, 10:40:52 PM
16-bit firewire transfers are the SHIT ;D 8)

so true, I've been having the same revelation Nick Pick's had, if I'm making a PA tape, especially in an indoor venue, I almost prefer 16-bit, especially when you factor in transfer time, flac time, dither time, etc. etc.

after hearing v3>modsbm1, my ears definitely might prefer 16-bit most of the time

as much as i wanna go 24-bit, alot of me says WHY? i record in bars/clubs mostly :)

"Why" is the correct question we should all ask ourselves when considering 24-bit. when I finally began to use my ears, all I heard was higher resolution of reverb and crowd noise. however, I need to run these comparisons on a high-end audiophile system, maybe I'll regret it when I'm old enough to get my own and house and listening room...

anyway, so yeah, the jb3 is cool.
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