Topic: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison

[junkbondking]

tim if you want a wmod copy of a show, lemme know.  you can have any/all of the p&f fillmore run.....

[Brian]

what about downloading from the archive? plenty of w-mod sources there.

[Tim]

not something I do, I don't think I've ever downloaded anything from the archive... I have tons of music already.

I will do the occasional bittorrent but that's about it.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

All this talk makes me want to send my UA5 in for "warming"...

I think that'll be my Holidaze present to myself...

Terry

[Brian Skalinder]

All this talk makes me want to send my UA5 in for "warming"...

Perhaps you should wait to hear a Warm v. Presence (v. stock pre) comp?

Though I don't think you can go wrong with the warm mod - you can always sell it for damn near what you paid and pick up a presence mod if you decide you like it better.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

Yeah, I was hoping to hear more form S-Mod folks, but there don't seem to many of them around...

Anybody know if Oade will loan me a Warm and/or Pres to try out if I send them my UA5 as collateral???

Terry

[Brian]

highly doubtful, but hey stranger things have happened...

[Craig T]

FYI, I did a v3/wmod comparison back in Dec.2002 and distributed it via the Oade Forum.  I was sending out free cd's in exchange for feedback - send out maybe 15 16bit and 3 24bit and only got a few posts and a few more private emails (didn't want to risk picking the wrong one on the Forum I guess).  The results were generally the same as this more recent comp.  Majority of the responses couldn't ID the source and many preferred the wmod over the v3.  My test was done in my listening room, so its not quite the same as concert SPL's.  The preamps had to be run at high gain, so if the wmod was poor at high gain it wouldn't have done so well in the comp.  I'm not sure if there are any CD's floating around anymore, but I didn't save any copies.

http://www.oade.com/cgi-bin/miva?Forum/technology/showmsg.mv+message=6325

I also did a pmod vs. wmod comparison, although I had to swap boxes between sets so you can't compare the same song.  If anyone is interested, I can dig up the show.  I think it was a Big Wu show back in the spring.

[Craig T]

Here's a warm v. presence "comparison":

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=5298

set 1/disc 1 = wmod, set 2/disc 2 = pmod

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

Oh, but I'm a lowly snail-mailer...

Terry

[marc0789]

I'd have no hesitancy in getting w-mod tapes. Like Markham, however, I dont' trade and can't d/l. I get tapes from friends, and none run one. And I don't even get that many shows I didn't tape, particularly since Mikey passed. $ has nothing to do with my opinion about anything, never has.

[Brian]

$ has nothing to do with my opinion about anything, never has.

see for me money had a lot to do with what gear i got when i started out.  Why should i pay 1500 bucks for a new V3 when i can get a w-mod UA5 for $525 and it is pretty much an equal piece of gear, in terms of sound quality? Seems logival to me. Sure if you have the money that's one thing but something tells me that a good chunk of that 1500 bucks is attributed to the Grace name and not the product itself. As long as *you* believe that the tapes *you* have made with *your* gear are worth every penny you spent then there's no problem really.

Brian

[marc0789]

"I don't listen to comp tapes because I don't have time and its not going to make me change my mind."

Then shut yer yap about it. I love everyone who gets on my ass for changing gear. It's because I'm not hearing something I want to hear. I ran the same rig for a long time, and only ditched the adk and eaa because I had so many repair issues. I've tried to find the closest thing I could since then. Look, I can respect someone saying that they run >v3 or >mme because ease and convenience, acknowledging that you might lose something scaling down to one box. And I can respect someone who after listening to comps still says they like their setup. But to refuse to listen, say it wouldn't change your mind anyway, and still say shit? Nope.  

[Craig T]

[something tells me that a good chunk of that 1500 bucks is attributed to the Grace name and not the product itself.

how about build quality and metering?  You could probably roll a car over a V3 without damage.  I don't think a UA5 could even survive a 4' drop to pavement undamaged.

[Brian]

[something tells me that a good chunk of that 1500 bucks is attributed to the Grace name and not the product itself.

how about build quality and metering?  You could probably roll a car over a V3 without damage.  I don't think a UA5 could even survive a 4' drop to pavement undamaged.

good point...however the UA5 was never designed as a field pre/ad as I'm sure you know.  That's why i treat it as best as i can. I've dropped mine 4' onto a carpeted floor and it still works fine.  even opened it up to check to make sure everything was still secure...