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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #330 on: April 08, 2016, 05:25:23 PM »
FYI: Here's the best price I've found for a card on Tascam's Tested Media List: Sandisk Extreme SDSDXL-032G for $16.99

Make sure you test those cards well if you purchase them from BuyDig.com.  They are not authorized sellers of SanDisk SD cards.  I bought some SanDisk cards from BuyDig several years ago at a price that seemed to good to be true and they turned out to be counterfeits.  They may have cleaned up their act since then but caveat emptor. 

Well that fucking sucks. How do you find out who is/isn't an authorized Sandisk seller?

I have a Kingston card that is not on the list that I've tested for hours with no issues. Should I just stick with that card?

I only bought these Sandisk cards because they were on Tascam's list. I didn't need any more SD cards...just wanted to be able to record with peace of mind since these were on the list.

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #331 on: April 08, 2016, 05:32:59 PM »
Their website explicitly states that they are a Sandisk authorized reseller.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #332 on: April 08, 2016, 05:55:29 PM »
Well that fucking sucks. How do you find out who is/isn't an authorized Sandisk seller?

https://www.sandisk.com/about/where-to-buy
Region "North America", country "United States of America", "Online Stores" (I checked under the other types of stores as well and didn't see BuyDig listed)


Their website explicitly states that they are a Sandisk authorized reseller.

Unless I've overlooked something, Sandisk's own website doesn't have BuyDig listed as an authorized seller. 

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #333 on: April 08, 2016, 06:29:04 PM »
That apparently is because of a not particularly obvious corporate relationship.

Beach Camera is listed as an Sandisk authorized seller and they are part of the same corporate group as BuyDig - Beach Trading Company.

http://beachtr.com/


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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #334 on: April 08, 2016, 06:48:02 PM »
^  I learn something new every day.  I guess they have "cleaned up their act."  ;D

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #335 on: April 08, 2016, 07:59:07 PM »
FYI: Here's the best price I've found for a card on Tascam's Tested Media List: Sandisk Extreme SDSDXL-032G for $16.99

Make sure you test those cards well if you purchase them from BuyDig.com.  They are not authorized sellers of SanDisk SD cards.  I bought some SanDisk cards from BuyDig several years ago at a price that seemed to good to be true and they turned out to be counterfeits.  They may have cleaned up their act since then but caveat emptor.

Never bought from BuyDig, but I think this card may be sketchy.  If you search for the exact model number on the recommended media list, SDSDXL-032G, you'll get links to lots of Asian market retailers, but zero North American ones.  This is true for a few others as well.  The following cards on the 70D list that only show Asian sellers in search results are:

SDSDXL-064G
SDSDXL-032G
SDSDXL-016G
SDSDUP-008G

I would stay away from any of the above cards.  All of the other ones are stocked by places like B&H, BestBuy, etc. and too many people have been burned by fakes.  I had an email exchange with SanDisk customer service a while back asking about what I was finding with searching these model numbers, and they did confirm that certain model numbers are only sold in certain markets. 

Why would Tascam have a card only intended for the Asian market on their media list?  Because TEAC Japan is doing all of the card testing and generating these recommended media lists, so the list we're reading is intended for consumers worldwide.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #336 on: April 09, 2016, 06:31:01 PM »
Nice pics fellas! I need to snap some pics of my cable setup too! Ive been using those left angle micro usb cables for well over a year now, and LOVE them! I dont see myself using any other USB cables :)
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #337 on: April 12, 2016, 10:32:42 AM »
FYI: Here's the best price I've found for a card on Tascam's Tested Media List: Sandisk Extreme SDSDXL-032G for $16.99

Make sure you test those cards well if you purchase them from BuyDig.com.  They are not authorized sellers of SanDisk SD cards.  I bought some SanDisk cards from BuyDig several years ago at a price that seemed to good to be true and they turned out to be counterfeits.  They may have cleaned up their act since then but caveat emptor.

Never bought from BuyDig, but I think this card may be sketchy.  If you search for the exact model number on the recommended media list, SDSDXL-032G, you'll get links to lots of Asian market retailers, but zero North American ones.  This is true for a few others as well.  The following cards on the 70D list that only show Asian sellers in search results are:

SDSDXL-064G
SDSDXL-032G
SDSDXL-016G
SDSDUP-008G

I would stay away from any of the above cards.  All of the other ones are stocked by places like B&H, BestBuy, etc. and too many people have been burned by fakes.  I had an email exchange with SanDisk customer service a while back asking about what I was finding with searching these model numbers, and they did confirm that certain model numbers are only sold in certain markets. 

Why would Tascam have a card only intended for the Asian market on their media list?  Because TEAC Japan is doing all of the card testing and generating these recommended media lists, so the list we're reading is intended for consumers worldwide.

I got the cards yesterday from Buydig. Both formatted fine, and seem to be working well.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #338 on: April 26, 2016, 11:11:53 AM »
I've owned the DR-70D since late January and haven't had a single issue.  I recently recorded about 25 hours over 3 days at Wanee without a glitch.  I use a Panasonic Gold 32GB card (SKU: PCSDUC132AK MFR: RP-SDUC32GAK) which is on Tascam's approved card list.  I keep the firmware updated to whatever's current.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #339 on: April 26, 2016, 08:22:41 PM »
Thanks for the info Craig :) I just ordered a 64gb Sandisk Extreme Pro [SDSDXPA-064G-X46] from Amazon today, which is on Tascam's approved list :)

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-SDSDXPA-064G-X46-Flash-Memory/dp/B007NDL54C

I'll obviously run the new 64gb SD Card for WEEKS before the first festie of the season Memorial Day Weekend :) I should have the Sandisk SD Card within the next week, so I'll DEFINITELY be reporting back about how my [2] 70D's like their new Sandisk Extreme Pro SD Card :)
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #340 on: April 26, 2016, 09:55:02 PM »
Thanks for the info Craig :) I just ordered a 64gb Sandisk Extreme Pro [SDSDXPA-064G-X46] from Amazon today, which is on Tascam's approved list :)

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-SDSDXPA-064G-X46-Flash-Memory/dp/B007NDL54C

I'll obviously run the new 64gb SD Card for WEEKS before the first festie of the season Memorial Day Weekend :) I should have the Sandisk SD Card within the next week, so I'll DEFINITELY be reporting back about how my [2] 70D's like their new Sandisk Extreme Pro SD Card :)

Make sure you run it for hours at a time.  My first card that wasn't on the approved listed worked fine...until our third set where I was greeted to an error when I was starting to pack up.  Set it up the way you are going to want...data rate, number of channels, limiter, etc. and let it run over night and all day.

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #341 on: April 26, 2016, 11:58:05 PM »
Thanks for the info Craig :) I just ordered a 64gb Sandisk Extreme Pro [SDSDXPA-064G-X46] from Amazon today, which is on Tascam's approved list :)

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-SDSDXPA-064G-X46-Flash-Memory/dp/B007NDL54C

I'll obviously run the new 64gb SD Card for WEEKS before the first festie of the season Memorial Day Weekend :) I should have the Sandisk SD Card within the next week, so I'll DEFINITELY be reporting back about how my [2] 70D's like their new Sandisk Extreme Pro SD Card :)

Make sure you run it for hours at a time.  My first card that wasn't on the approved listed worked fine...until our third set where I was greeted to an error when I was starting to pack up.  Set it up the way you are going to want...data rate, number of channels, limiter, etc. and let it run over night and all day.

Haha you have no clue lol ;D I'm as OCD as they come, and I'm dead serious when I say that it will be tested almost 24/7 for the 4 weeks leading up to the Mem Day festie I'm doing 8)

BTW Ballistic, what firmware were you running when you got an error? Was it a "Timeout Error"? Also, the Sandisk Extreme Pro I bought today and linked above IS on Tascam's approved media list, so I'm really hoping for the best with this Sandisk card! Then I'll just stick the Sandisk Extreme Pro in my 70D #2 and leave my PNY cards with 70D #1, so I'm hoping I get nothing but flawless runtimes :)

I will obviously be testing the new 64gb SanDisk Extreme Pro sd card I just bought in BOTH of my 70D's, and I will DEF report back my findings :)
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #342 on: April 27, 2016, 12:20:16 PM »
LOL, OK F.O Bean...you have a good plan.  You are worse than me as far as OCD goes :).  With stuff like this, you can't be over prepared.

I bought my 70D about 6 weeks ago.  I'm using whatever firmware was current at the time.  I think it was a timeout error...timeout writing to file or something like that.  It happened with 2 different 128 GB PNY cards I had. 

I'm using the 128GB suggested Sandisk Extreme Pro card with no trouble so far.  In case you haven't read back, I use it to record my duo direct out of our mixer.  We play 3 sets, each set being between 50 and 60 minutes.  I will stop and restart it between sets.  I also record our rehearsals.  I have recorded 2 or 3 rehearsals and 2 or 3 gigs so far with no trouble.  Before getting the supported card, it failed on me at a gig and at a rehearsal.  Overnight tests would fail also.  It was pretty consistent.

I also set up an HD camcorder on a tripod to record video.  It's ridiculous how easy it is to fully record performances in high quality today...all digitally.  No tapes to archive :).

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #343 on: April 28, 2016, 01:17:18 PM »
How are you guys going to determine if there's a problem with that card? The only way I recognized a card issue (back before the approved card list) was on playback, when I heard pops on one recording and some other funky anomaly on another.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #344 on: April 28, 2016, 01:25:11 PM »
How are you guys going to determine if there's a problem with that card? The only way I recognized a card issue (back before the approved card list) was on playback, when I heard pops on one recording and some other funky anomaly on another.

That's a scary failure mode...tough to catch.  I identified a problem when in the midst of recording I got a file write error.  This would occur in an hour, 2 hours, 3 hours...it varied.

 

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