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right and left
« on: September 02, 2003, 02:06:58 PM »
When you have mics crossing, such as in din, ortf etc, which one is right and which one is left.  I am often asked this question, and I assume I know the answer,  but wanted it clarified  Say in ortf, my mic that is pointed to the right side is technically on the left if looking at it from a connector basis.   However, the actual mic would be pointing to the right side of the stage, so which channel is it.  I hope this makes sense, I was thinking about it driving up to Madison yesterday...

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Re:right and left
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2003, 02:11:21 PM »
L/R is dependent upon the direction in which the capsule/element is pointed.
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Re:right and left
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2003, 02:28:04 PM »
Does anyone else make note of which mic is right and which is left in recording notes?
I used to have a mismatched pair and I always wrote down which was which, by serial#,  when I made notes about the recording. That has stuck with me.
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Re:right and left
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2003, 02:30:25 PM »
Yellow post-it note paper cut up for sizes and taped all along the LEFT chain, from cap to preamp, for me!

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Re:right and left
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2003, 02:37:43 PM »
yeah, whichever direction the mic is POINTED is what channel it should be...i put a piece of duct tape at either end of one of my cables to distinguish the two during setup.
as for keeping track of which mic is in which position, i don't bother with it.  they're a matched pair and it shouldn't matter which is left and right as long as i've got the signal coming in correctly.
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Re:right and left
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2003, 02:46:10 PM »
The set of mic cables I got from Jonny had "R" on the right-hand cable. Once I got it hooked up right, I just never unplugged 'em from the back of my preamp and only have to worry about plugging that cable into the mic facing to the right. Why worry about two ends when you can worry about one? 8)

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Re:right and left
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2003, 02:52:19 PM »
One of my Mogami cables is yellow and one is blue, so I never have trouble figuring out which is which. I use yellow=right, blue= left. I also do a finger snap test in front of each microphone with headphones on to confirm all is right. Or is it left...  ;D
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Re:right and left
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2003, 03:02:30 PM »
the audio magics have a colored spacer on one end at the mic and pre meeting points, and i just bought 40 ft green, and 40 ft black, so no more squinting 8)
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Re:right and left
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2003, 06:52:59 PM »
the audio magics have a colored spacer on one end at the mic and pre meeting points, and i just bought 40 ft green, and 40 ft black, so no more squinting 8)

40ft?  are your runs usually that long?  
my xstreams came with a blue marker on one of the xlr's at each end.  
my right channel mic points to the same side of the room as my right ear when i'm facing the stage.

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Re:right and left
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2003, 09:01:40 PM »
I also do a finger snap test in front of each microphone with headphones on to confirm all is right. Or is it left...  ;D

Finger snap is key to make sure that the left mic is the left on your setup.

As far as when mics are setup in ORTF/DIN, etc...they do not always cross.  It has to do with your T-bar or mic lengths if they cross.  You can still run the mics in the ORTF or DIN without crossing the mics. Either way, cap pointed to left is left, and right is right.  

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Re:right and left
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2003, 02:36:13 AM »
the audio magics have a colored spacer on one end at the mic and pre meeting points, and i just bought 40 ft green, and 40 ft black, so no more squinting 8)

40ft?  are your runs usually that long?  
my xstreams came with a blue marker on one of the xlr's at each end.  
my right channel mic points to the same side of the room as my right ear when i'm facing the stage.

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not at all, but i plan on making a couple of sets ;) 8)
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Re:right and left
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2003, 09:18:04 AM »
the audio magics have a colored spacer on one end at the mic and pre meeting points, and i just bought 40 ft green, and 40 ft black, so no more squinting 8)

40ft?  are your runs usually that long?  
my xstreams came with a blue marker on one of the xlr's at each end.  
my right channel mic points to the same side of the room as my right ear when i'm facing the stage.

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not at all, but i plan on making a couple of sets ;) 8)

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Re:right and left
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2003, 07:20:20 PM »
the audio magics have a colored spacer on one end at the mic and pre meeting points, and i just bought 40 ft green, and 40 ft black, so no more squinting 8)

40ft?  are your runs usually that long?  
my xstreams came with a blue marker on one of the xlr's at each end.  
my right channel mic points to the same side of the room as my right ear when i'm facing the stage.

jr

not at all, but i plan on making a couple of sets ;) 8)

got it

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Re:right and left
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2003, 10:57:47 PM »
[rank on]

u guys are all so fucking silly.....

get red/black cables.....red is right!

connect the red cable to the mic that points to the right side of the stage....

even a monkey can figure that out.

sheesh....

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Re:right and left
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2003, 11:15:06 PM »
[rank on]

u guys are all so fucking silly.....

get red/black cables.....red is right!

connect the red cable to the mic that points to the right side of the stage....

even a monkey can figure that out.

sheesh....

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