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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2011, 01:38:28 PM »
My vote is for the MG270's!  ;) ;D
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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2011, 03:55:14 PM »

I know what you're saying here. That's one of the reasons I refuse to drop $1k on a pair of DPA 4061's - the cost won't justify end result (it won't be "that" much better).

The dpa's are excellent sounding mikes, but like any other rig a lot of it has to do with location and conditions around you (ie loud vs quiet audience).  I've pulled some very nice dpa recordings as wel las some horrid recordings before selling them off.  It's not the dpa's fault, but mine.   Why?  Location!  If I have loge seating any a par view, what could I do?   Although, I love the versatility of mike bodies that allow you to change out the patterns/elements.
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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2011, 04:00:39 PM »
My vote is for the DPA 4061s and you can get them for way less than $1000 if you're patient.  I run them open and lopro with great results.  Like some other posters mentioned, location is always a good thing no matter what pattern mics you ultimately end up with.

In case you are interested here are a couple snippets from a lopro gig I did last week with my 4061s that sound damn good to these ears!  :o

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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2011, 04:31:47 PM »

I know what you're saying here. That's one of the reasons I refuse to drop $1k on a pair of DPA 4061's - the cost won't justify end result (it won't be "that" much better).

The dpa's are excellent sounding mikes, but like any other rig a lot of it has to do with location and conditions around you (ie loud vs quiet audience).  I've pulled some very nice dpa recordings as wel las some horrid recordings before selling them off.  It's not the dpa's fault, but mine.   Why?  Location!  If I have loge seating any a par view, what could I do?   Although, I love the versatility of mike bodies that allow you to change out the patterns/elements.
I've said this before and I think I'll say it again... just because the 4061's are 10x the price of my CA-14 omnis, does this mean the recording will be 10x better?  5x better?  2x better?  And then it's a matter of luck, location, etc.   I got burned the other night when I ran the cards instead of the omnis but thought I was making the right choice.  I've been looking at the AT853's for when I don't have access to my buddy's 480's/tascam 680 (or if I can't run those). 

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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2011, 04:39:07 PM »
My vote is for the DPA 4061s and you can get them for way less than $1000 if you're patient.  I run them open and lopro with great results.  Like some other posters mentioned, location is always a good thing no matter what pattern mics you ultimately end up with.

In case you are interested here are a couple snippets from a lopro gig I did last week with my 4061s that sound damn good to these ears!  :o

Nice clips.  And yes, the 4061's do sound good.  I just don't have the cash kicking around to even drop $700 on them - they're what you call "not girlfriend/wife approved" not to mention I've got some other priorities that are higher at the moment.  So the question is would the AT853's be a good compromise for when I have to roll solo and can't access the 480's with CK62?  I know the B3's are also an option.

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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2011, 10:36:03 PM »
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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2011, 04:34:25 PM »
I just listened to samples on the Schoeps website, and the MK2's sound KILLER!
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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2011, 09:44:19 PM »
also vote for some 853 omni's, love these caps, i've owned DPA 406X, and have Busmans (though haven't run the omni's, but the money/patterns can't be beat), had all variants of CA gear, and still prefer the 853 omni's.
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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2011, 10:46:27 PM »
The Rode nt5s with optional omni caps sound fantastic particularly for the price. Considering that I also own
4060s, 414s, 480s w/omni caps and Sennheiser mkh20s, that is high praise indeed.
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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2011, 11:18:59 PM »
I just listened to samples on the Schoeps website, and the MK2's sound KILLER!

I run these mics and i personally think they are the bomb.  That said, it seems like $$ is an issue, so I would recommend the ADK TL's if you can find them.  I have run side-by-side with Barrett Miller, and he has pulled some damn comparable pulls.  Of course he has a v3 and concert mod Tascam HDP2.  Good luck, what ever you do get the cables to run from moderate  (3 ft) to large splits (15 ft or so).  i ran about 17 feet at telluride bluegrass using mk2s>v3(analog)>minime>PMD 66, and it was the shizzle.  Barrett and i plan to run this combo at Blues and Brews.  You will have to assess which venues you go big in and those you do about 3-6 foot splits.  enjoy, omnis rule at outdoor festivals. 

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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2011, 07:25:53 PM »
I just listened to samples on the Schoeps website, and the MK2's sound KILLER!

I run these mics and i personally think they are the bomb.  That said, it seems like $$ is an issue, so I would recommend the ADK TL's if you can find them.  I have run side-by-side with Barrett Miller, and he has pulled some damn comparable pulls.  Of course he has a v3 and concert mod Tascam HDP2.  Good luck, what ever you do get the cables to run from moderate  (3 ft) to large splits (15 ft or so).  i ran about 17 feet at telluride bluegrass using mk2s>v3(analog)>minime>PMD 66, and it was the shizzle.  Barrett and i plan to run this combo at Blues and Brews.  You will have to assess which venues you go big in and those you do about 3-6 foot splits.  enjoy, omnis rule at outdoor festivals. 

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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2011, 10:51:08 PM »
there are a couple of my recordings up on bt.etree under rickyskaggs.  i have yet to figure out the samples.  be careful, you'll be wanting a pair of those 2s, then you'll see the light and have to get a pair of 4's.   >:D 

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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2011, 11:01:52 PM »
there are a couple of my recordings up on bt.etree under rickyskaggs.  i have yet to figure out the samples.  be careful, you'll be wanting a pair of those 2s, then you'll see the light and have to get a pair of 4's.   >:D 

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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2011, 05:51:28 AM »
In your price range, I second the ADK TL suggestion.  They sound fantastic and are very versatile.  They are a bit on the large side, but if you can deal with it, they are outstanding for not only that price, but for any price.  If you like the AKG sound, you may also want to look into the AKG Blueline series (39x).  You can pick up a used set in your price range.

At any price, the Gefell M270s can't be beat for omni patterns.
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Re: Omni mic choices for open rigs....
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2011, 07:58:35 PM »
Busman's w/omni caps > Little Box > M10

another vote for Busmans!  i own the BA-L2 mics and love 'em for outdoor recording using the omni setting.

 

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