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keepongoin:
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--- Quote from: Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan on July 11, 2005, 07:03:22 PM ---I haven't had problems in the past, but on my return trip from Jackson, WY the screeners would not let me through with my Eco-charge EC-90. I had no Issues leaving Cleveland Hopkins, but it was a no go on the return trip. I had the documentation from Eco-Charge but it still wasn't enough. I'm thinking I might have been ok if I had it padded in a small Pelican Case, but I couldn't get a straight answer. They got hung up on line 2 "The batteries need to be properly packaged for protection against short circuits and secured in a rugged outer package". I had the battery in it's padded carrying bag and it was packed in clothes in my carry on, they wouldn't accept it in my check baggage either. As a last resort I placed it in a Fed-Ex drop box in hopes that it might get back home. To save the hassle next time I might have a ground shipping plan in place if the airline or security will not let it through.
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Telling them they are power supplies, not batteries, goes along way with the TSA.
http://www.ecocharge.com/PDF_forms/transportationpolicy.pdf
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Yes, but the link you provided, which is the documentation I had, cleary states that it is a Sealed Lead Acid Battery Sysyem. I personally referred to it as a "power supply". The TSA in my case brought it down to United and asked if they would allow it in my carry on or check baggage, United told me I needed to find an alternate way to transport the battery and that they considered it "hazerdous material" reguardless of the provided documentation.
It just arrived yesterday from Fed-Ex, I dropped it in the Fed-Ex drop box and it probably left on the next United flight the next day. I'm guessing their packages don't go through as much if any screening at all. It cost a few dollars, but I'm very happy to see that it made it.
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The TSA people you dealt with should be given 30 lashes and have their pay cut.
Their paperwork CLEARLY states that any sealed battery, including SLAs are safe to travel on a plane. Any battery that unsealed is not permitted, even in an electric wheelchair.
Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan:
--- Quote from: keepongoin' on July 13, 2005, 06:22:19 PM ---The TSA people you dealt with should be given 30 lashes and have their pay cut.
Their paperwork CLEARLY states that any sealed battery, including SLAs are safe to travel on a plane. Any battery that unsealed is not permitted, even in an electric wheelchair.
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It also states "The batteries need to be properly packaged for protection against short circuits and secured in a rugged outer package". Next time I'll have it in a Pelican Case so they have little to question.
I had the battery in the soft zipper pouch that comes with it. Despite what the paperwork states, the airline and or the TSA have the right to deny whatever they please. If you ever run into a situation like this, I'd suggest keeping your calm regaurdless of how rediculous their decision is, with a few strokes of a key pad you could be easily flagged in the nice new TSA passenger database.
oniontaper:
glad this subject is being tossed around
what type pf category does the Wally-world type of Li-on fall under here for MSDS reasons.
i will be traveling by plane here shortly and want to make sure i have the proper documentation for the equipment i have.
it seems that the MSDS that are provided here describe a different type of power supply then what i am using, and i am afraid that if i was carrying a MSDS that described in detail the appearance of a battery that looks nothing at all from the one I am carrying that anything i said from that point on would lose all credibility, not to mention the fact that i look like a hippie extremist who is likely to be profiled halfway in line :-[
here are a few pic's of the batt.. ahmm...."power supply's" to make sure were clear on what type I'm using
TIA
Jesse
Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan:
--- Quote from: oniontaper on July 14, 2005, 05:46:02 PM ---glad this subject is being tossed around
what type pf category does the Wally-world type of Li-on fall under here for MSDS reasons.
i will be traveling by plane here shortly and want to make sure i have the proper documentation for the equipment i have.
it seems that the MSDS that are provided here describe a different type of power supply then what i am using, and i am afraid that if i was carrying a MSDS that described in detail the appearance of a battery that looks nothing at all from the one I am carrying that anything i said from that point on would lose all credibility, not to mention the fact that i look like a hippie extremist who is likely to be profiled halfway in line :-[
here are a few pic's of the batt.. ahmm...."power supply's" to make sure were clear on what type I'm using
TIA
Jesse
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I think my problem was that I had a Sealed LEAD ACID (SLA) battery, they said if it were a something like a camera battery or alkaline, NiMH or NiCD rechargables wouldn't have been an issue. Lead Acid batteries ARE hazerdous material, the other problem with them is they are virtually impossible to see inside when sent through the scanner. I highly doubt you'd have a problem with the Li-ion battery.
Brian Skalinder:
Thanks to Damon for this list of permitted / not permitted objects on planes, per the TSA:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=47428.0;id=15350
Though it doesn't address our gear specifically (mic stands, etc.), it's easy to see why often people have trouble getting mic stands on as carry-ons.
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