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Title: If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: phishn on January 13, 2004, 10:08:28 PM

If i get the hypercard caps should I get rid of the cards?  What situations would it be best to use cards over hypers?  I'm thinking of canning the cards for omni's, and purchasing hypers..so I'll end up with 92's and 93's..

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: nickgregory on January 13, 2004, 10:09:41 PM

the cards rock outside for those mics.  I never had the omnis, but logic tells me that for amphitheatre taping, the cards will give you that "spacious" feel, while not picking up every tom dick and harry at the show

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: phishn on January 13, 2004, 10:12:06 PM

I'm mainly planning to use the omni's outdoors and the hypers indoors.  Are the 91 cards better outside than the 92 omni's?

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: Tim on January 13, 2004, 10:20:33 PM

omni's are great if you are outdoors with no roof over you and minimal reflective surfaces (ie. not red rocks).

keep the cards, you'll be glad you did

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: nickgregory on January 13, 2004, 10:28:00 PM

I agree with Tim...in a big field...omnis are nice...in an outdoor amphitheater that has surfaces for the sound to bounce off of...the cards will give you a much more refined image, without alot of the ancillary crap

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: phishn on January 14, 2004, 07:42:01 AM

Thanks guys..those are the answers I have been looking for.  So it looks like this...

91's for ampitheatre use and really small clubs
92's for limestone, etc
93's for indoors.

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: steve-o on January 21, 2004, 05:11:04 PM

I used the 93s for a few indoor recordings and they did a great job.  (I just bought the pair.)  They are fantastic, to say the least, and worth the investment.  Just follow the above info/instructions regarding where to use them and you're set.  

Steve

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: mirth on January 21, 2004, 05:30:46 PM

If you ever decide to get rid of your cards look me up.... I bought 393's.

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: Govt Mule on January 27, 2004, 08:24:11 PM

what mounting configuration are you using for the Hyper's indoors?

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: nickgregory on January 27, 2004, 08:26:24 PM

When I owned these mics, I would run the hypers DIN, 90 degrees, 17 cm...very nice results

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: quantegy on January 28, 2004, 06:56:02 PM

yeah, keep the cards for outdoors, they are excellent. run them DIN and you wont have any problems.

Man I wish I could find some super cheap hypers!

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: Tim on January 28, 2004, 06:58:32 PM

DIN is your best friend with these mics... I told Nick the same thing when he bought them from me.

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: nickgregory on January 28, 2004, 09:23:49 PM

Yes, Tim proved to be wise beyond his years....I ran the cards DIN every time after I tested ORTF and XY...DIN just gave a much better image.  With the hypers, I actually prefered XY....but that probably had more to do with the venues I used them in were boomy as hell

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: Tim on January 28, 2004, 09:27:28 PM

I didn't have hypers, I should have qualified that. I ran those mics for a long time in various configurations and then I discovered DIN, never looked back!

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: jlykos on January 29, 2004, 09:44:57 AM

I liked XY with the ck93 hypers, but then again, I like XY in many situations where others do not.

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: quantegy on January 29, 2004, 05:26:38 PM

Is XY better for boomier indoor places? Im using the cards and would like to cut down on the boominess in some bars.

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: Tim on January 29, 2004, 05:34:28 PM

yes

Title: Re:If I purchase ck93 caps, will I ever need the ck91's again?
Post by: quantegy on January 29, 2004, 06:32:47 PM

k, thanks