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Title: newbie in serious need of help...
Post by: bassmaniu on July 10, 2003, 03:07:07 AM
I apologize in advance...but maybe someone can help..

I've scoured the boards for a few weeks now...looking through the archives and even posting a couple things...but it all seems overwhelming sometimes.

my question is...i'm planning on getting a JB3 in a month.  what is the minimum i would need between my mics (will probably start with AKG 1000 for expense sake) and my JB3...please include any cables, splitters, converters, etc...thank you for all the head clearing you will do...please keep the expense issue in mind too...thanks
Title: Re:newbie in serious need of help...
Post by: Nick in Edinboro on July 10, 2003, 08:58:27 AM
I'm not sure if the C1000's new come with a cable like this but all you'd need is a Dual XLR > 1/8" stereo cable (http://store2.yimg.com/I/microphonemadness-store_1745_366183).

The C1000's don't require phantom power, just a few AA's I believe (maybe a 9V).  Then you'd run line in to the JB3 until you can afford a pre-amp to go digital (such as the UA-5).  That also encompasses some new cables too (toslink from UA-5 > JB3) and two XLR mic cables.  Custom power cable to run the UA-5 externally with RC batteries..
Title: Re:newbie in serious need of help...
Post by: Kindguy on July 10, 2003, 09:04:35 AM
The c1000s do take 9v. You may want to get some transformers to boost the gain some.

I ran the c1000s>hosa transformers>D8 my 1st few shows. Till I bought an AD-20.

The transformers will run you about 20 bucks each. Oade can modify the cable to be rca out then you can run those >stereo mini.
Title: Re:newbie in serious need of help...
Post by: wrangler_n_space on July 10, 2003, 10:29:36 AM
If you are running a nomad you will need an optical cable.

I dont know if you can go xlr to optical.

You may want to lok at getting an ad-20, you can find one for around 200$. Then you will not need the transformers and you'll have an a/d and an optical out. If you have a little extra cash, get the digimod ua-5.
Title: Re:newbie in serious need of help...
Post by: Nick in Edinboro on July 10, 2003, 10:38:54 AM
You don't *need* to run optical, he can go analog in with XLR (2) > 1/8" stereo just fine..

Not the best option but a helluvalot cheaper then going digital for the time being..
Title: Re:newbie in serious need of help...
Post by: Brian Skalinder on July 10, 2003, 10:52:53 AM
You don't *need* to run optical, he can go analog in with XLR (2) > 1/8" stereo just fine..

Agreed, Nick has it right - bare minimum to run C1000S > JB3 is a (2)XLR > 1/8" stereo cable.  Personally, I'd recommend a pair of XLR>XLR mic cables with adapter(s) to get it down to an 1/8" stereo plug.  That way, when you add new gear, you won't have to outright replace your XLR>1/8" stereo cable.
Title: Re:newbie in serious need of help...
Post by: wrangler_n_space on July 10, 2003, 11:09:06 AM
So can you patch with a 1/8 to 1/8 stero using a nomad?
Title: Re:newbie in serious need of help...
Post by: Nick in Edinboro on July 10, 2003, 11:13:53 AM
Sure!  The line in stage is considered to be similar to that of a D7/8 quality..  probably a bit worse but it's not super terrible and definately a viable option until you can buck up some cash.

The optical input of the unit acts also as an analog in..
Title: Re:newbie in serious need of help...
Post by: wrangler_n_space on July 10, 2003, 11:49:08 AM
Learn somethin new every day on here.

+ts

so the line in is digital and the optical in can be analog
Title: Re:newbie in serious need of help...
Post by: MattD on July 10, 2003, 11:56:00 AM
No no ... the line in is analog (1/8" stereo) and the optical in is digital. They just happen to share the same jack ... optical receiver at the end of the jack and metal connectors along the sides.
Title: Re:newbie in serious need of help...
Post by: wrangler_n_space on July 10, 2003, 12:12:02 PM
I was talkin about using the optical without an optical cable for an analog in.
Title: Re:newbie in serious need of help...
Post by: Nick in Edinboro on July 10, 2003, 12:13:38 PM
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just happen to share the same jack .

LOL.. Sorry to confuse you :)  Yes this is what I meant.  The analog line-in and optical in are both the same jack.
Title: Re:newbie in serious need of help...
Post by: Kindguy on July 11, 2003, 02:15:53 PM
I made a mistake on the price of the transformers also. it's about 65.00 from oade with the ends upgraded to coax>mini run straight to the deck.

I had this set up your going to need the gain from the transformers.

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Personally, I'd recommend a pair of XLR>XLR mic cables with adapter(s) to get it down to an 1/8" stereo plug.

good advice here as well.  XLR>transformers>coax>mini>deck