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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2015, 02:18:43 AM »
The head mikes, with line in, channels 5-6, run way hotter than the stock body channels, 1-4.  Whether its all line in or a combination of audience and line in, the snap on head always run way hotter, by 1-2 numerical values. 
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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2015, 03:07:28 PM »
Zoom NA has posted new info in re. to the F8.  Has a buy now link too, but not available yet.  Has Bluetooth too, which I don't remember them noting this earlier during the NAB.

https://zoom-na.com/products/field-video-recording/field-recording/zoom-f8-multitrack-field-recorder
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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2015, 06:32:15 PM »
Zoom NA has posted new info in re. to the F8.  Has a buy now link too, but not available yet. 

Sweetwater and Full Compass have it up, say it will be shipping in a week or two.

This looks like a GREAT machine, if.....

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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2015, 09:03:19 PM »
but does it have internal mics and can it be held up at a Ryan Adams show?  ;D
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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2015, 09:38:14 PM »
That's a nice looking recorder. Has a nice feature set & 8 channels for $1k, I hope more manufacturers take the hint. Competition is good!
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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2015, 10:02:02 PM »
Really is nice looking, particularly for the cost.
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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2015, 09:37:07 AM »
I only wish they had an AES3 or an S/PDIF option as an extra output feature.

Ergo wise, it is a great size and setup for an audio bag situation and with a color display like on the H6. A 4-pin Hirose connector is a plus!

•8-channel/10-track field audio recorder/mixer
•8 discrete inputs with locking Neutrik XLR/TRS combo connectors
•Compact and lightweight aluminum chassis, weighing just 2 pounds (without batteries)
•High quality mic preamps with up to 75 dB gain, less than -127 dBu EIN, and +4 dB line inputs
•Support for up to 24-bit/192 kHz recording as well as 96 kHz, 88.2 kHz, 48k, and 44.1 kHz, plus 47.952 kHz / 48.048 kHz for HD video compatibility; 16-/24-bit resolution
•Accurate Time Code (0.2 ppm) I/O on standard BNC connectors; dropframe/non-drop formats with Jam Sync
•Three different power supply options: 8x AA batteries, external DC battery pack with Hirose connector, or 12V AC adapter (AA’s and DC battery pack not included)
•Automatic switching of power source from DC to batteries at user-defined voltage levels
•Dedicated gain control knob, 6-segment LED level meter, and PFL/Solo switch for each channel
•Phantom power (+48V/+24V) on every preamp
•Advanced onboard limiters for input and output
•High pass filter, phase invert, and Mid-Side decoder
•Input delay of up to 30 msec per channel / output delay of up to 10 frames per output
•Compatible with Zoom microphone capsules; optional extender cable enables remote positioning
•Dual mini-XLR (TA3) balanced Main Outs plus ⅛" stereo mini-jack Sub Out
•Dedicated headphone output (100 mW) with front panel volume control
•2.4" full-color backlit LCD with monochrome mode
•Dedicated PFL display with viewable trim settings
•Dual SD/SDHC/SDXC card slots, up to 512 GB each
•Records in BWF-compliant WAV or MP3 file formats
•Support for extensive metadata (BWF and iXML); input time, date, project, scene number, etc.
•Built-in slate mic/slate tone with front panel switch
•Built-in tripod mount; camera mount adapter also included
•Use as an 8-in/4-out USB audio interface (@ 96 kHz)
•Free Zoom F8 Control App for iOS allows wireless remote control, file renaming, and metadata entry

Looking at the specs and price, I will definitely take a shot (Pre-ordered at B&H) with an Zoom F8, especially since the DR-70D I had was returned for a warranty refund...nice timing ;)

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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2015, 10:35:38 AM »
Few things I wish it had:
Gangable gain control across multiple channels.
Individual channel analog outs (all 8 on one multi-pin connector is fine, as space is scarce).
EQ (cool that it does have phase-invert and delay).
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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2015, 03:34:53 PM »
I agree, I've fallen in love with the gangable gain control of the DR680, using one knob to adjust channels has been a huge help at times.
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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2015, 03:46:34 PM »
I can understand the gain knob for all channels, as I have that control when running mics and or a line through my SD552, even if I D-Link the SD MixPre-D for the extra 2 channels I can still control that aspect.

However, maybe I am reading the F8's website description wrong ?  •Dedicated gain control knob, 6-segment LED level meter, and PFL/Solo switch for each channel
 

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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2015, 04:03:36 PM »
I agree, I've fallen in love with the gangable gain control of the DR680, using one knob to adjust channels has been a huge help at times.

I can't imagine not having that running multitrack.
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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2015, 05:17:14 PM »
Yeah, as the channel count grows, the more valuable the ganging feature becomes. For us at least.

To accommodate individual rotary knob control for each channel, the gain pots would need to be 'endless' rotary encoders (with no hard full clockwise or counter clockwise position).  In that case the gain would need to be indicated on the screen (should be anyway).  Relative knob position would need to be indicated by an LED array on or around each knob, similar to digital consoles, but is relative knob position really needed?  I wouldn't care if not as long as gain is indicated on the screen.

I think I recall "channel gain ganging" was added as a feature to the R88 via later firmware update.  I wonder how that works with its gain controls, which seem identical to those on the R44.
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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2015, 06:51:43 PM »
Yeah, as more channels are become involved, the more valuable the ganging feature becomes. For us at least.

To accommodate individual rotary knob control for each channel, I the gain pots would need to be 'endless' rotary encoders (with no hard full clockwise or counter clockwise position).  In that case the gain would need to be indicated on the screen (should be anyway).  Relative knob position would need to be indicated by an LED array on or around each knob, similar to digital consoles, but is relative knob position really needed.  I wouldn't care if not as long as gain is indicated on the screen.

The rudimentary description of the wifi function says the following...

Functions include Record, Play, Stop, Fast-Forward, and Rewind, plus mixer pan and fader level.  You can also monitor input levels, current time code, and battery status. With Zoom F8 Control, you can rename files, enter metadata, and set date/time information directly from your iOS device.

Even though the gain controls on the front are limited rotation knobs and appear to be analog level control gain pots, clearly all of the mixer functionality of this recorder is digital and software driven from the front touchpad.  Some of the basic controls are also available remotely via wifi.  I'd be pretty sure that each of the channels can be written to the SD card pre or post-fader, especially since it says that the headphone functionality allows for pre and post fader monitoring.  I can't imagine why they wouldn't have written a routine into the digital mixer to enable ganging of channels digitally in any combination you want when you're writing to the SD card post-fader.

I think I recall "channel gain ganging" was added as a feature to the R88 via later firmware update.  I wonder how that works with its gain controls, which seem identical to those on the R44.

The R44 doesn't have a mixer for user definable output routing, does it?
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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2015, 09:25:19 PM »
I'm probably gonna sell my 722 , perhaps my zoom h6 as well. This looks to be the right size for my gear bag, seeing as I run 8 mics right now. We'll see how I like the sound compared to the sd.
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Re: Zoom F8
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2015, 10:41:52 PM »
POWER SUPPLIES
Batteries:   
8 AA
AC adapter:   
AD-19 DC12V 2A (center plus)
External DC power supply:   
HIROSE HR10A-7R-4S 4-pin connector
(1 pin: −, 4 pin: +), 9–16 V

Looks like the pins are the same as the sd 722, I'll be able to use my tekkeons to power this too.
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