Topic: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 3)

[Belexes]

Nobody knows what I have nor will they ever see it. Stealth is an art. 

[gmm6797]

from experience, most security just wants a copy... unless its the band's security

[spyder9]

I use one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Lowepro-4-3-Inch-Navi-Sleeve-Black/dp/B002TLSOG0

Fits the M10 perfectly. 

[jmerin]

hey all,
i just got the m10. it looks great so tiny. Anyways I was wondering if there is a way to set the file size limit on the files. thanks.
looking forward to running this

thanks

[crbatt]

^  Welcome and +T for spending a week reading before you post.  It does my heart good to know there's another Team Old Farts candidate stretching out here. 

Thanks for the welcome!

I'm on week 3 here and still trying to read as much as I can. I'm also looking at buying some mics. The recordings I've made with the built-in's are decent, but listening to samples on here.... it sounds like there's a lot a good set of mics can do.

I'm looking at Church CA-10's, or CA-11's on his site. Do I definitely want the cardioids (11's) rather than the omni 10's for recording live music? And specifically for use with the M10 does anyone have experience using just plug-in power or do I definitely need a preamp? From a few other threads I found, it sounds like that's risky (at least for the CA-11's. Maybe different for the CA-10's?) I've read the 'where do i begin' threads but left a little confused as to how it may/may not applies specifically to my hardware. It would be great if the M10 provided enough juice so I didn't need a preamp.

I appreciate everyone's time and help.

[agoston.berko]

Hi Folks !

I'm looking for an external mic for my Sanyo HD2000A camcorder.
It has an external microphone input (unbalanced) and a shoe mount.
Any recommendation ?

My first pick was the Zoom H1, but after I read great reviews about the Sony PCM-M10, I changed my mind to go that route.
 
     Thank you. 

[Tedley]

crbatt: You should avoid the Church-Audio website and eBay store for his mics. He offers members here a much better deal and mics that are not on his site. See the retail section for his Taperssection offerings. While the CA-11's are quite good, you can get an up-grade in quality for a little more with CA-14 mics. They come in cardiod and omni patterns. With very loud sources you may only need a battery box, available from Church-Audio to power them. For quieter sources you will find the preamp necessary. There is a set of CA-14's (card and omni) as well as a CA preamp for $250 shipped,in the yardsale. For a beginning rig, you can't do better without spending a lot more. There are mics available that can be powered directly by the M-10, but I think you will find the CA gear the best for both quality of sound and price for what you get. I started out with this set up. You could just get a set of card's but with the package deal you can also get the omni's, which youwill eventually find useful.

[ArchivalAudio]

^ You showed security your gear 

that is totally the Jedi mind trick that you need to use sometimes
perfectly played!
--Ian

[earmonger]

For a case I use a Lowepro Ridge 30.

http://www.amazon.com/Lowepro-Ridge-Camera-Case-Black/dp/B000BH1GFK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1282799199&sr=1-1

It's a kind of marsupial pouch. The main space is just slightly bigger than the PCM-M10. The zippered flap shown in the picture is perfect for the flat PCM-M10 remote. And under that flap there's a little pocket that just happens to hold the battery box.

Nothing like a camera pouch to make security think the PCM-M10 is a harmless point-and-shoot.

I use one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Lowepro-4-3-Inch-Navi-Sleeve-Black/dp/B002TLSOG0

Fits the M10 perfectly.

[ArchivalAudio]

so I am thinking of down sizing to a M-10 and it appears that noone is worried about the A-D converter in the M-10, and that most like to use a preamp in front of it.
I am thinking LittleBox > M-10
which would still be smaller and lighter than my Fostex FR2 LE

anyone have insight on the Sony  A-D converter

thanx
--Ian

[Ozpeter]

We discussed selectable splits and internal circuitry of the M10 on page 12 of this thread - going around and around a bit now! 

[johnw]

so I am thinking of down sizing to a M-10 and it appears that noone is worried about the A-D converter in the M-10, and that most like to use a preamp in front of it.
I am thinking LittleBox > M-10
which would still be smaller and lighter than my Fostex FR2 LE

anyone have insight on the Sony  A-D converter

thanx
--Ian

look down the forum page a few threads and you will see my thread comparing the AD to that of the 722. The AD of the 722 is very well regarded. Take a listen to the files and see how you think the M10 compares.

EDIT: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=138489.0

[udovdh]

anyone have insight on the Sony  A-D converter

It's said to be the CS42L52_F1.
http://www.cirrus.com/en/pubs/proDatasheet/CS42L52_F1.pdf

[gormenghast]

Great info in this thread.

I found a case that fits the M10 like it was made for it.  Lowepro Volta 20.  A small pocket inside for additional cards and that's it.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=NavBar&A=getItemDetail&Q=&sku=630164&is=REG&si=rev#anchorToReadReviews





The concern some might have is the zipper.  There is enough elasticity in the zipper that you can pull away while zipping up the case and if you zip all the way around there is a small amount of webbing that will protect the M10 from zipper rub 

[ArchivalAudio]

anyone have insight on the Sony  A-D converter

It's said to be the CS42L52_F1.
http://www.cirrus.com/en/pubs/proDatasheet/CS42L52_F1.pdf

whoa thanx that's a very technical 82 page PDF
most of it over my head
thanx
--Ian