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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2017, 03:54:55 PM »
I wanna say 140 shipped with a couple extra knobs...I asked him to send me a paypal invoice the German website was troublesome :)

FWIW: If you want "light, compact and modular", you could easily build your own mic bar by re-purposing some dslr accessories:

Manfrotto Dado adapter
rig rods (for DSLR cameras) with a diameter of 15mm and M10 threading (available in various length: 15cm, 25 cm, 30 cm, ...)
rod clamps (15mm diameter)
1/4 -> 3/8 threading adapters

The only downside is that you don't have any markings (for the various mic configs) on the rig rod.
But you could use a goniometer (used in physical therapy) instead.

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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2017, 07:01:01 AM »
FWIW: If you want "light, compact and modular", you could easily build your own mic bar by re-purposing some dslr accessories:

That's pretty cool.  Personally, though, I would rather spend a little more and get a set-up from mic-bar.com.  There are a lot fewer pieces to deal with (or lose), less futzing around with angles and measures, and the slot where the thumb screws slide is a perfect attachment point for a safety cable.  And it's a one-click purchase.  I also like supporting a small business making specialty gear for a rather niche market.  Actually, I don't even think it is more expensive, as those Dados aren't cheap...

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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2017, 07:40:39 AM »
FWIW: If you want "light, compact and modular", you could easily build your own mic bar by re-purposing some dslr accessories:

That's pretty cool.  Personally, though, I would rather spend a little more and get a set-up from mic-bar.com.  There are a lot fewer pieces to deal with (or lose), less futzing around with angles and measures, and the slot where the thumb screws slide is a perfect attachment point for a safety cable.  And it's a one-click purchase.  I also like supporting a small business making specialty gear for a rather niche market.  Actually, I don't even think it is more expensive, as those Dados aren't cheap...

Those mic bars are definitely nice, I've seen both companies referenced a bit on GS.  In terms of supporting a small business, the other option for a bar around 60 cm is the 24" wide mic bar made by followinbob here on TS.

Regarding the Dado: there are quite a few cheap knockoffs out there.  Here are two examples, in a full sphere and a hemisphere:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Multifunctional-Magic-Ball-3-8-Hole-for-Studio-Lighting-Tripod-5d2-5d3-system-/171250759407
http://www.ebay.com/itm/iShoot-Metal-Magic-Ball-14-3-8-Adapter-Screw-Hole-f-Camera-Tripod-Head-/151392011447?hash=item233faac4b7:g:iREAAOSwQItT-pck
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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2017, 08:54:18 AM »
FWIW: If you want "light, compact and modular", you could easily build your own mic bar by re-purposing some dslr accessories:

That's pretty cool.  Personally, though, I would rather spend a little more and get a set-up from mic-bar.com.  There are a lot fewer pieces to deal with (or lose), less futzing around with angles and measures, and the slot where the thumb screws slide is a perfect attachment point for a safety cable.  And it's a one-click purchase.  I also like supporting a small business making specialty gear for a rather niche market.  Actually, I don't even think it is more expensive, as those Dados aren't cheap...

You've got a valid point there as I also tend to support small businesses if possible. (Before I decided to recycle some spare parts from my DSLR rig, I also had a look at mikrofonschiene.de and http://www.stereoschiene.ch/index.php.)

The thing was just that these spare parts were already there and they're light and easily transportable.
I often travel by train, so small size / lightweight was a hard requirement.

As for the price for these DSLR spare parts: you'd be looking somewhere in the region of $ 70-80.
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Dado knock-off:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Multifunctional-Magic-Ball-3-8-Hole-for-Studio-Lighting-Tripod-5d2-5d3-system-/171250759407
US $15.88

2x rig rods (30cm M10 threading, 15 mm diameter):
https://www.enjoyyourcamera.com/Videozubehoer/Video-Rig-Zubehoer/2-Stk-15mm-Rundstab-mit-M10-Innengewinde-Quenox-30cm::5885.html
EUR 26.99

2x thread screws
http://www.zollshop.de/de/Madenschrauben-UNC-/-UNF/5/16-quot-UNC/5/16-18-x-1-25-40-mm-Madenschraube-UNC
EUR 1.80

2x rod clamps (15 mm diameter)
https://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Professional-Thread-Support-Monitor/dp/B00MJLQDF4/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1497702621&sr=1-3&keywords=neewer+clamp+rod
US $ 13,98

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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2017, 06:04:13 PM »
The thing was just that these spare parts were already there and they're light and easily transportable.
I often travel by train, so small size / lightweight was a hard requirement.

If I had the parts lying around, that probably would have made a difference!  I didn't, though, and the simplicity of the mic-bar.com stuff was appealing...

Out of curiosity, how do you connect the mic clips to the rod clamps?  With the screws you listed, I don't think I would have enough clearance to attach my clips.

I also go by train; that's a big part of the reason I wanted to ditch the 154B.  This bar practically disappears in my stand bag and is within a cm or two of the length of the extension bar I use when I clamp, so, size-wise, it works well for me.

In terms of supporting a small business, the other option for a bar around 60 cm is the 24" wide mic bar made by followinbob here on TS.

As I mentioned in the original post, I considered the followinbob.  With international shipping, value-added tax, and import/customs fees, however, it costs the same (even a bit more) than the mic-bar.com, and it doesn't feature the same expandability.  It's great how wide you can space omnis with the mic-bar.com AB 120 cm set...


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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2017, 11:05:22 AM »
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In terms of supporting a small business, the other option for a bar around 60 cm is the 24" wide mic bar made by followinbob here on TS.

As I mentioned in the original post, I considered the followinbob.  With international shipping, value-added tax, and import/customs fees, however, it costs the same (even a bit more) than the mic-bar.com, and it doesn't feature the same expandability.  It's great how wide you can space omnis with the mic-bar.com AB 120 cm set...

I missed that bit; sorry.  I also didn't think about all of those other costs making it so expensive... I feel as though we here in the US often make out better buying from the EU than vice versa.
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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2017, 04:09:08 AM »
Out of curiosity, how do you connect the mic clips to the rod clamps?  With the screws you listed, I don't think I would have enough clearance to attach my clips.

The screws I listed go between the Dado and the two rig rods. They're M10 respectively 3/8 threaded.

You need 1/4" (male) to 3/8" (male) threaded screw adapters between the clips and your shock mounts.

Either https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L6J6I3Q?psc=1 or Manfrotto 118 / Kupo KG000912 (slightly bigger).

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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2017, 09:52:20 AM »
New German T-bar arrive last evening - very well made and light. That is the low profile Neumann shock mount under the ortf active bar.
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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2017, 01:17:03 PM »
New German T-bar arrive last evening - very well made and light. That is the low profile Neumann shock mount under the ortf active bar.

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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2017, 01:21:26 PM »
Nice...nah...I reside in a Class A motor home.
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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2017, 11:12:12 AM »
Either https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L6J6I3Q?psc=1 or Manfrotto 118 / Kupo KG000912 (slightly bigger).

Thanks!

I feel as though we here in the US often make out better buying from the EU than vice versa.

I think that is generally true, with the value-added tax being the predominant factor.  Often, the prices are pretty similar if you subtract the VAT.  There are also some European manufactured products (including some popular mic brands) that are a little cheaper over here, even with VAT.  The most painful is when you order something from the US to be shipped over; there's the international shipping and insurance and the VAT is applied to both the purchase price and the shipping.  Then there are some processing fees and import duties.  Once I ordered a $35 battery charger that was popular on ts and it cost €75 by the time I got it...

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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2017, 01:21:44 PM »
Nice...nah...I reside in a Class A motor home.
I was gonna ask if it was  VW bus? Class A motor home sounds much nicer.
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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2017, 07:13:34 PM »
Not a VW bus...lol
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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2017, 08:09:25 PM »
sweet.
I dig the paint job.
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Re: Cool modular mic bar system...
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2021, 12:45:35 AM »
Inspired by If_then_else here and some others at the purple site,  I got some Smallrig rods & mounts a couple months ago and finally got to put them in action.
I normally use ortf in the center, but thought I'd try M/S this time.  KM83 AB pair with Um70/MK4 for M/S.  I'll probably end up using one pair but it's nice to experiment with a second setup.
I bought the knockoff Dado, but didn't get all the threaded adapters I needed and used an impact clamp instead.   
Yeah, I know it's not lined up perfectly.  I took the photo before I finished adjusting.


 

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