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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #225 on: October 19, 2021, 09:30:45 PM »
I just picked up one of these from Ebay, but I think it's a lemon.

I don't get any indication that it's doing anything when I plug it into my PC, or any charging status on the unit's LCD screen. Is it fair to assume it's junk, or does it need to sit on a charger a long time before it does anything?


It should start charging right away, yeah. Does anything happen if you plug it into a regular USB charger, like a phone charger?

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #226 on: October 19, 2021, 09:59:21 PM »
I just picked up one of these from Ebay, but I think it's a lemon.

I don't get any indication that it's doing anything when I plug it into my PC, or any charging status on the unit's LCD screen. Is it fair to assume it's junk, or does it need to sit on a charger a long time before it does anything?


It should start charging right away, yeah. Does anything happen if you plug it into a regular USB charger, like a phone charger?

Nothing, unfortunately. The only thing it does is get warm.

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #227 on: November 01, 2021, 10:04:57 AM »
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I've had my A10 for one year and it's been my main recording deck since the day I got it (previous main deck was an Edirol R-07).  I used my iPhone 12 Pro Max when I first got the A10, and I've been loving the ease with which I can control the recording with an app on my phone.  A week ago, I got an iPhone 13 Pro Max (w/ 1TB storage).  And that's when this conundrum began ... no matter what I did, I could not get the iPhone 13 to recognize (and pair with) the A10.  I tried and tried and tried ... but no dice.  The only saving grace was that the iPhone 12 / A10 combo has always worked just fine, so I was still able to >:D two shows last week while using the A10 app on my iPhone.  But I only have two weeks from receipt of the iPhone 13 to return the iPhone 12 and get the guaranteed refund for the trade-in.  I chatted with Apple support via text at their webpage ... not much help.  I drove over to a Best Buy and found a sharp young guy in the smart phone section and he actually gave it a really good effort (especially considering I didn't buy the phone or recorder from Best Buy so I was just a random guy walking in off the street asking for service).  After that, I finally decided I had to go big, so I made an appointment at the nearest Apple Store, which is an hour drive away.  I don't go there often, so I don't know what's normal, but I was seen after waiting 5 minutes or so.  The person who assisted me was a young lady named Grace, probably in her mid-late 20s.  She dove right into it - had my iPhone 12, iPhone 13 and A10 layed out along with a few other devices of her own and also had the A10 manual pulled up on her iPad.  For a good half hour she poked around through the iPhone menus, ran diagnostics, did various other testing, went to the backroom a couple of times ... but no bueno.  She called her boss Sasha over and he worked on it for five minutes or so.  He had some really insightful ideas for fixes ... but even he couldn't solve this.  Sasha got called away to another customer and Grace went back at it.  Around 45 minutes in - after reading parts of the A10 manual - Grace started taking a hard look at the menus in the A10; in particular, the Bluetooth menu.  And then she found something and BANG - just like that - problem solved.  So the smart thing for me at that point would have been to ask Grace exactly what she had just found that fixed the problem.  But I was super happy to finally get this saga done with and this was 50 minutes into the session; and I could tell Grace needed a break.  So I just thanked her and left.  Just as she was about to solve the problem, however, I do remember her saying she was looking at the bluetooth settings in the A10 and it looked like it was set to send data out to a device like a bluetooth speaker, as opposed to being set to receive data from a recording rig.  So after it was all said and done ... there is still that mystery out there ... if the bluetooth settings in the A10 were the problem (with the iPhone 13), for the last year, why (how?) did the A10 work just fine with the iPhone 12?  Grace was equally baffled by this question.

TL;DR:  If you upgrade an iPhone that works properly with the A10 app, but your new iPhone doesn't connect over bluetooth with the A10 app, the solution is probably in the A10's bluetooth menu.
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #228 on: November 05, 2021, 10:25:43 PM »
It’s been almost 2 years since I’ve done a show with the A10. Back then it got past the wands with no problem. Can anyone confirm that this is still the case? I have a couple important shows coming up.
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #229 on: November 06, 2021, 05:43:31 AM »
No clue, but I bet the clock is dead - maybe leave it powered on for a while?
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #230 on: November 06, 2021, 12:42:12 PM »
It’s been almost 2 years since I’ve done a show with the A10. Back then it got past the wands with no problem. Can anyone confirm that this is still the case? I have a couple important shows coming up.

I've noticed lately that a lot of venues that previously wanded - aren't doing it now.  I think in the current (tight) labor market, a lot of venues have had to decide which positions aren't critical to the operation, and someone at each gate wanding people coming in is one of those jobs they can cut and not take a financial hit and/or piss off patrons.  Of course, this all subject to change.

Having said that - even if they are wanding, you didn't have any problems before, so just keep doing whatever you did before and you should be fine.
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #231 on: November 10, 2021, 05:42:09 PM »
Just in case anyone here is looking for an A10, Amazon Canada has them in stock. They won't ship directly out of the country, but you can use a postal forwarding service to get it.

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #232 on: November 24, 2021, 09:11:30 PM »
Sony stop producing these?  Had an alert on Adorama for well over a month, just for s & giggles... still not in stock.

Anyone know the deal?
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #233 on: November 25, 2021, 09:33:16 AM »
Sony stop producing these?  Had an alert on Adorama for well over a month, just for s & giggles... still not in stock.

Anyone know the deal?


Here is what B&H Photo says


Expected availability: Jun 13, 2022



Must be a parts shortage?

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #234 on: December 29, 2021, 10:01:05 PM »
So has anyone figured out what each number on the recording gain equates to in dB?

Meaning if 10 on the manual recording level goes to eleven, does it just increase by one dB or an increment of say three?

Thought I would ask here before trying to test myself
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #235 on: December 30, 2021, 12:25:05 AM »
Anyone aware of any mods anyone is doing with the A10??
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #236 on: December 30, 2021, 08:40:26 AM »
So has anyone figured out what each number on the recording gain equates to in dB?

Meaning if 10 on the manual recording level goes to eleven, does it just increase by one dB or an increment of say three?


Pretty close to 1 dB per number in my experience, but I haven't done any kind of exhaustive test.

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #237 on: December 30, 2021, 02:07:51 PM »
I don't have any experience with the A10, so this may be completely off base, but I think audio gain pots are usually logarithmic.

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #238 on: December 30, 2021, 03:32:31 PM »
Only reason I ask is because on my M10 it appears that each number level of gain is equates to approx 3dB IMO
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #239 on: December 31, 2021, 11:45:14 AM »
Anyone aware of any mods anyone is doing with the A10??

Doug Oade took one apart and determined he couldn't mod. Not sure why.
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