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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2013, 01:22:14 AM »
Nevaton MC49's......  Not Actives.... but they are the best fixed card on the market, Bar none....  Can be had 1100-1400$ used...

I wouldn't get caught up in the active hype.  Most bands we record are open... no real need for actives. Nice to have but not necessary.
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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2013, 05:32:50 PM »
Most bands we record are open...

Really?

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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2013, 07:02:47 PM »
I wouldn't get caught up in the active hype.  Most bands we record are open... no real need for actives. Nice to have but not necessary.

They're not hype.  Having a smaller rig to travel with and/or set up has a lot of advantages (especially if you have to clamp in a tight spot).

And as was quoted above, most of the bands I tape are NOT open although I've been migrating to getting permission which is a lot easier than having to run covert.

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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2013, 03:12:09 AM »
I've been migrating to getting permission which is a lot easier than having to run covert.

But not half as much fun!  >:D

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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2013, 08:36:42 AM »
I wouldn't get caught up in the active hype.  Most bands we record are open... no real need for actives. Nice to have but not necessary.

They're not hype.  Having a smaller rig to travel with and/or set up has a lot of advantages (especially if you have to clamp in a tight spot).

That's also a slight overgeneralization.

All of the real active setups (that is, made by the manufacturers) other than the Schoeps ones that involve their rather large Schoeps brand preamp do not reduce the size of the rig you carry; in fact, they increase it in some ways.  Schoeps MKx>KCx>CMCx is obviously not smaller than simply screwing capsules on CMCs and running normal cables.  Ditto Neumann versions. AKG of course doesn't have their own manufacturer branded setup; nor does Gefell.

I like running some of the homebrew or semi-homebrew "active" setups for convenience, but do so with the knowledge that I am almost certainly sacrificing a small measure of sound quality or stability.  If you don't stealth, there is not *that* much difference between carrying a cigar case with a couple thin mics in it and carrying capsules around that you screw onto cables. The other area where you save with actives space-wise is using "Kwon" and various other bars, but of course, if you do so, you give up flexibility of setup and, assuming you're using Shure donuts, you sacrifice some stability relative to, say, using Rycotes.

If I didn't stealth and getting the best mic within a fairly fixed budget was my top priority, I think skipping active setups is probably the right move unless you go for one of the homebrew solutions that actually costs less.
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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2013, 08:45:47 AM »
So what would you spend ~1500 on? I have a friend with a hole in his pocket. ;D Looking for small sized SD's. Preferably actives.

My choices:

Gefell M20(used)>Nbob's
Schoeps MK4(used)>NBob's
Beyer CK930's (New)
DPA 2011c's (New)
KM 184's (New)
Neumann KM140's with actives (Used)

What else?

The Gefell M300 comes into this price bracket.

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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2013, 07:19:22 PM »
So what would you spend ~1500 on? I have a friend with a hole in his pocket. ;D Looking for small sized SD's. Preferably actives.

My choices:

Gefell M20(used)>Nbob's
Schoeps MK4(used)>NBob's
Beyer CK930's (New)
DPA 2011c's (New)
KM 184's (New)
Neumann KM140's with actives (Used)

What else?

The Gefell M300 comes into this price bracket.

Hardly ever see these used. 2K new.

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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2013, 07:44:37 PM »
New AKG ck61/3 caps and Nbob cables!! 
Mics: DPA ST4011ER & 4018ER
Preamps: DPA MMA 6000 | Audioroot Femto
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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2013, 08:58:18 PM »
New AKG ck61/3 caps and Nbob cables!!

Used MK4's>Nbob's   ;)

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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2013, 06:30:22 AM »
Good call!!

New AKG ck61/3 caps and Nbob cables!!

Used MK4's>Nbob's   ;)
Mics: DPA ST4011ER & 4018ER
Preamps: DPA MMA 6000 | Audioroot Femto
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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #40 on: October 15, 2013, 06:57:33 AM »
New AKG ck61/3 caps and Nbob cables!!

Used MK4's>Nbob's   ;)

New CK61 & CK63's > Nbob's

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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #41 on: October 15, 2013, 10:44:08 AM »
All of the real active setups (that is, made by the manufacturers) other than the Schoeps ones that involve their rather large Schoeps brand preamp do not reduce the size of the rig you carry; in fact, they increase it in some ways.  Schoeps MKx>KCx>CMCx is obviously not smaller than simply screwing capsules on CMCs and running normal cables.  Ditto Neumann versions. AKG of course doesn't have their own manufacturer branded setup; nor does Gefell.

The modular DPAs with the new active cables...Granted, it only saves about an inch, compared to the compact bodies, but still a bit smaller. And less pieces...

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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #42 on: October 15, 2013, 06:10:37 PM »
Since he'll be running the V2 most all of the time I would shoot for something in the brighter category or something with a slight presence peak.  The V2 always seemed to have a flatter, somewhat closed in high end to my ears.  I'm thinking if he can come up with the Milabs on budget they would work VERY well in that combo.
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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2013, 09:57:57 AM »
Get another 300 bucks and you can get two used kmr81i's.

These are neumanns so you know they gonna work for ever and sound great. As far as I know, I am the only one who used these in the jamband scene, I am getting older now, so i dont mind sharing my secrets.

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Re: Budget ~$1500. What Mics?
« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2013, 11:00:55 PM »
I still think Mkxx>KCY>LB/TB/VMS02ib is about as small and HQ as one can get. But obviously that's just MY opinion ;)
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