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Re: The AT dilemma.......... AT831, AT943, AT853 wich one?
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2006, 11:07:02 PM »
richard, +t for excellent, knowledgable, interesting answers. thank you.
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Re: The AT dilemma.......... AT831, AT943, AT853 wich one?
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2006, 09:19:25 AM »
richard, +t for excellent, knowledgable, interesting answers. thank you.

Ditto. +T

For what it's worth, I've used the SP-CMC-8's (AT943) with the SP battery box for years and made many tapes that I am quite happy with. I'm finally moving to 3-wire + preamp (the Church Audio version), but like I said, I've made many a fine tape with the lesser setup. If that's all you can afford, go for it!

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Re: The AT dilemma.......... AT831, AT943, AT853 wich one?
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2006, 11:11:05 AM »
richard, +t for excellent, knowledgable, interesting answers. thank you.

Ditto. +T

For what it's worth, I've used the SP-CMC-8's (AT943) with the SP battery box for years and made many tapes that I am quite happy with. I'm finally moving to 3-wire + preamp (the Church Audio version), but like I said, I've made many a fine tape with the lesser setup. If that's all you can afford, go for it!




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i have made some really good tapes with 933s and just a battery box. and now i am going to mod them for phantom power soon


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Re: The AT dilemma.......... AT831, AT943, AT853 wich one?
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2006, 12:26:21 PM »
okay, here's a question for anyone that can help.  i own a pair of the AT Slimline 943's (SP-CMC-8) powered with the Samson PM4 phantom adapters.  i've read here and numerous other places that the AT853's generally have better sound than the 943's.  If i were to buy a pair of these adapters:

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/AT-ADAPT

...i reckon I can buy some 853 caps and run them on my existing cables/hardware?  if so, and the 853's really do sound better, i might give this a go as it wouldn't be a real expensive upgrade to gain better sound (100 bucks: $10/pair adapters, $90/pair capsules). 

please let me know if you think this would be worth trying...thanks!
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Re: The AT dilemma.......... AT831, AT943, AT853 wich one?
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2006, 01:32:05 PM »
okay, here's a question for anyone that can help.  i own a pair of the AT Slimline 943's (SP-CMC-8) powered with the Samson PM4 phantom adapters.  i've read here and numerous other places that the AT853's generally have better sound than the 943's.  If i were to buy a pair of these adapters:

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/AT-ADAPT

...i reckon I can buy some 853 caps and run them on my existing cables/hardware?  if so, and the 853's really do sound better, i might give this a go as it wouldn't be a real expensive upgrade to gain better sound (100 bucks: $10/pair adapters, $90/pair capsules). 

please let me know if you think this would be worth trying...thanks!

Sure, if you're able to score the 853 caps.  I've only tried the subcards w/ the adapters (since there are no subcards for the 943s) and was very pleased with how it sounded.  Not to mention, the adapters are cheap as hell.
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Re: The AT dilemma.......... AT831, AT943, AT853 wich one?
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2006, 01:47:49 PM »
Ok guys! interesing posts!
So be it......... will get the  SP-CMC-8 with AT´s853 and phantom modded.
I will get them with the sound proffessionals.
Regarding the phantom modded thing, when ordering; what will I have to ask for? and with wich modification?
Thanks! Im kind of new to the terms here., and dont want to screw it up,
Ed  :)
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Re: The AT dilemma.......... AT831, AT943, AT853 wich one?
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2006, 03:40:49 PM »
1) voltage, can be between 1.5 and 9V.  9V is best, although, in reality, 3 or more volts is enough.  Plug in power on minidisc only gives about 2V, not enough.  All battery boxes give 9V.  Phantom power adapters give 9V (by stepping down from 48 to 9V).

Richard - I e-mailed AT to ask for the specs of their electret mics.  They sent me a drawing showing the usual 2-wire and 3-wire alternatives, but the drawing showed supply voltages to be 1.5-15V.  Looks like these can take a bit more voltage, although I don't know where to get a 15V battery :)

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Re: The AT dilemma.......... AT831, AT943, AT853 wich one?
« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2006, 06:55:52 PM »
okay, here's a question for anyone that can help.  i own a pair of the AT Slimline 943's (SP-CMC-8) powered with the Samson PM4 phantom adapters.  i've read here and numerous other places that the AT853's generally have better sound than the 943's.  If i were to buy a pair of these adapters:
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/AT-ADAPT
...i reckon I can buy some 853 caps and run them on my existing cables/hardware?  if so, and the 853's really do sound better, i might give this a go as it wouldn't be a real expensive upgrade to gain better sound (100 bucks: $10/pair adapters, $90/pair capsules). 
please let me know if you think this would be worth trying...thanks!
Sure, if you're able to score the 853 caps.  I've only tried the subcards w/ the adapters (since there are no subcards for the 943s) and was very pleased with how it sounded.  Not to mention, the adapters are cheap as hell.

thanks Audball, +t

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Re: The AT dilemma.......... AT831, AT943, AT853 wich one?
« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2006, 07:04:36 PM »
okay, here's a question for anyone that can help.  i own a pair of the AT Slimline 943's (SP-CMC-8) powered with the Samson PM4 phantom adapters.  i've read here and numerous other places that the AT853's generally have better sound than the 943's.  If i were to buy a pair of these adapters:
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/AT-ADAPT
...i reckon I can buy some 853 caps and run them on my existing cables/hardware?  if so, and the 853's really do sound better, i might give this a go as it wouldn't be a real expensive upgrade to gain better sound (100 bucks: $10/pair adapters, $90/pair capsules). 
please let me know if you think this would be worth trying...thanks!
Sure, if you're able to score the 853 caps.  I've only tried the subcards w/ the adapters (since there are no subcards for the 943s) and was very pleased with how it sounded.  Not to mention, the adapters are cheap as hell.

thanks Audball, +t

sure thing.  report back if you end up using them.  I don't see many instances of people using them and it'd be cool to get some feedback from other's experiences. 
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Re: The AT dilemma.......... AT831, AT943, AT853 wich one?
« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2006, 08:50:28 PM »
OK, so recorded billy joel last week using my new (to me) cmc-4 w/ at853>sp battery box (no rolloff)>line-in jb3

Was a little ways from the stack, so caught a little bit of reverb, but Im quite satisfied at how it turned out

A little bit of post processing to remove the boomy bass, and an ever so slight enhancement of some higher frequencies

have a listen

http://tinyurl.com/lo7pv
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Re: The AT dilemma.......... AT831, AT943, AT853 wich one?
« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2006, 10:29:51 PM »

hey jcrab66, i've been curious about your rig since I noticed it.
AT853RX > AT8533x > PS2 > MT24/96

why don't you just run
at853rx > at8533 > microtrack via the 1/4 trs inputs?  the microtrack will also provide the needed phantom power that the ps2 is providing.  one less box to fuck with.



its a battery preservation thing, in the tests i did with my mt the phantom pwr really ate up the battery quick...
mk4's / mk41's > nbox > Microtracker / HDP2

 

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