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Offline Nick's Picks

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for VSA owners
« on: July 23, 2005, 07:07:32 AM »
if you own VR4s, or jr's or any Von Schweikert speaker that has a bass module/mid range tweeter cab design...you NEED to be running 2 pairs of speaker cables.
I think Frank does this  w/his VR4s all ready. 

I spoke w/my dealer on a conference call with Kevin at VSA who stressed the importance of doing this to really "make them sing".
well..I finaly was able to do this w/a 2nd pair of my custom Gregg Stralley cables, and i am totaly blown away.  Its like I got new speakers..a very dramatic change, as if the bass modules "woke up".  Its the way the crossover is designed...they (bass cabs) want their own direct connection to the amp.  bi-wiring sucks ass comparred to quad wiring these speakers.

10x the bass energy and drive.  I get serious SPL even at low volume.  Its almost like I squeezed more juice out of the Sony...which at 150wpc was barely enough to drive these speakers the way I wanted them driven.  No problems any more in that dept.

I find it hard to fathom that my custom jumpers were really "missing out" on that much signal current or overall "potential", but the evidence is as plain as a boner in sweat-pants.
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Re: for VSA owners
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2005, 10:42:26 AM »
i've been bi-amping my vr2s and i'll never go back :)
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2005, 12:04:52 PM »
Nick, does this mean that another listening day is in order, with the my 901 and whatever else we can scrounge together to listen to through your system?  hmmmmm.....   ;)
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Re: for VSA owners
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2005, 01:31:28 PM »
I have mine bi-wired with two pair of cables.   Still waiting for a matching amp to do the bi-amp config.  The bi-wire did make an immediate difference.
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Re: for VSA owners
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2005, 12:47:34 PM »
another listening day...probably in Sept, for sure.
I want to replace all the bass drivers and mid ranges in my speakers.  what the hell.  its very inexpensive to do it, like $50 per driver.  Now that the bass modules have new life, i can hear some shit I dont like.  Old cones in a rock-box....what can you do?
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Re: for VSA owners
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2005, 04:12:13 PM »
we need some sort of listening day closer to NYC:)
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Re: for VSA owners
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2005, 06:09:03 PM »
Quote from: Nick's Picks on July 24, 2005, 12:47:34 PM
another listening day...probably in Sept, for sure.

Quote from: scott brown on July 24, 2005, 04:12:13 PM
we need some sort of listening day closer to NYC:)

September sounds good to me :)  I'd be happy to host (in Boston), except for the fact that my system is crap except for headphones, which doesn't lend itself very well for more than one person.  someday I'll move out of apartments...
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2005, 06:07:23 AM »
We can host at my new house, I have a new room that is just dying to be broken in  :D
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Re: for VSA owners
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2005, 07:32:32 AM »
yup!!
cudo's for Carls house.
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Re: for VSA owners
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2005, 08:02:06 AM »
where?
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2005, 08:20:22 AM »
semi-southern NH.
not far off of i95
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2005, 09:09:50 AM »
Quote from: Nick's Picks on July 25, 2005, 08:20:22 AM
semi-southern NH.
not far off of i95

Quote from: scott brown on July 25, 2005, 08:02:06 AM
where?

Scott -
If you make the trip up to Boston, you're welcome to catch a ride with me the rest of the way :)  we really should start another thread for this and get planning under way..
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Re: for VSA owners
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2005, 09:45:11 AM »
sounds good.
we need to get Carls listening room under way.  Sheetrock...insulation...sound dampening where needed.
its just rough framing right now.  A room above the garage.  nice though..vaulted ceilings and a nice big size.
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Re: for VSA owners
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2005, 11:15:22 PM »
I tell you what, I may even buy some new gear just for this event, how's that for a sacrafice?!?!?  ;)
Whoever wants to come up is more than welcome to spend the weekend if it is easier on travel. I am not afraid to make some of my world class pulled pork & rage in the hot tub all night!
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Quote from: Cooker on November 24, 2005, 11:44:50 AM
I know you like, tape for people's approval and stuff, and wave your tapes around like they're your dick...  but even you can't actually think section tapes from philips sound good.  



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Re: for VSA owners
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2005, 11:48:50 PM »
damn, a hot tub and pulled pork... that sounds like a good damn time
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