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Re: Schoeps caps comparisons
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2005, 09:50:32 PM »
nice jon, you will def love those FOB moe tapes w/ the 21's :)

looking foward to hear them, maybe i will go fob for moe.down, usually i go to the side of the board

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Re: Schoeps caps comparisons
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2005, 09:58:27 PM »
nice jon, you will def love those FOB moe tapes w/ the 21's :)

looking foward to hear them, maybe i will go fob for moe.down, usually i go to the side of the board

jon

IMO there is a HUGE difference going from either side to DFC/FOB, come up w/ me in the middle oif FOB and we'll have us a great time

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Re: Schoeps caps comparisons
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2005, 10:07:20 PM »
I've run the 21's for a little over two years.  I almost picked up a used pair of the 21h's that were on ebay but decided to go with a new pair of 21's instead.  I'm really happy with my choice as I find the HF boost to be fatiguing after a while.  I really like some of the 4v tapes I've heard, but for everyone that I like, there's another that wears on me a little bit.  Part of the problem could be running the 4v's backward in Schoeps ORTF bar (70ยบ/17cm) and not a true ORTF, but its tough to determine a pattern as most are FOB tapes but only some have that fatiguing quality.  I'm sure some of it has to do with my PSB speakers, which tend to be on the bright side of neutral.

Thinking a little more outloud about this, I just don't see the need for the HF boost for this capsule as you defintely don't need it when recording onstage, and I don't think you need it FOB.  Maybe if you were going to run the 21's OTS, but I don't think that would be my first choice to run that far back...

From the charts, its obvious that the 21's already have a slight boost which begins at the same spot as the 4v's, only not as sharp a rise nor quite as exaggerated.

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Re: Schoeps caps comparisons
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2005, 10:08:10 PM »
nice jon, you will def love those FOB moe tapes w/ the 21's :)

looking foward to hear them, maybe i will go fob for moe.down, usually i go to the side of the board

jon

IMO there is a HUGE difference going from either side to DFC/FOB, come up w/ me in the middle oif FOB and we'll have us a great time

i think that i will, run the 4s and 21s

i am gonna try and borrow ck62's for this year too, do some split omni stuff or borrow a j-disc setup :)
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Re: Schoeps caps comparisons
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2005, 11:18:42 PM »
WOW, the mk21h/cmc6xt would be UBER Bright, at least on paper it looks that way

jon-i may run diff caps each nite for the sake of trying something diff, i have ran ck61's for 2 yaers at moedown and last year i ran ck63 hypers and the tapes are some of my favoritew tapes ive ever made, very clear and detailed

so first nite a may run ck61's for the long one set show, then the ck63's the long day and then the ck62's the last 2 set day ;D

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Re: Schoeps caps comparisons
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2005, 01:09:02 AM »
if you don't fall victum to wind, hypers in a good spot can give your tapes a real in your face feel, some of the shows I have done outdoors in a good spot sound damn good.
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Re: Schoeps caps comparisons
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2005, 08:41:30 AM »
all i know is that last year my moe.down tapes came out awesome.  ran the 4s, to the right of the board

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Re: Schoeps caps comparisons
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2005, 10:01:15 AM »
well, they do have a good sound system there...that always helps
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Re: Schoeps caps comparisons
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2005, 02:04:18 PM »
sweet, thanks for all the input.  My 21's arrive tomorrow! 

i'll be doing all kinds of ortf vs nos setups since I have those 2 bars.

I've run my 4v's mostly 70/17cm (backwards ortf)  I have noticed a change with I run ORTF with the vark bar, but not much.

It will be nice to have a couple sets of caps and bars and do all kinds of experimentation!

thanks again for all the input from everyone...

wolff ;D

 

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