Topic: RX9

[old and in the way]

    RX9 out . 149.00 upgrade from 8 ( Sweetwater) . i've got 8 Standard and love it , salvaged a few shows that had screamer and whistlers .

[flask]

Loyalty pricing is available directly from Izotope if you qualify. $49 for RX9 until the end of the month.

[DavidPuddy]

Loyalty pricing is available directly from Izotope if you qualify. $49 for RX9 until the end of the month.

Where did you get this pricing? I'm seeing $99 when I log in.

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm on RX7, hence the $99 upgrade. Upgrading from RX8 is $49.

[flask]

After logging into izotope.com, there is a My Loyalty Offers link on the left side. It was in there.

[EmRR]

I can report that it runs fine under mac 10.13.6, though it's not officially supported. 

[flask]

I'm running it on macOS Monterey (12.0.1) Intel fwiw. No problems yet.

System Requirements
Operating Systems:
Mac: macOS Mojave (10.14.6) - macOS Big Sur (11.6)*
Windows: Windows 10
* Intel Macs or Apple Silicon Macs in Rosetta mode only.
Plugin Formats:
AU, AAX, VST2, VST3.

All plug-in formats are 64-bit only.

Supported Hosts:
Logic Pro, Pro Tools 2021, Live 11, Cubase 10.5-11, Nuendo 11, Studio One 5, Reaper 6, FL Studio 20, Audition CC, Premiere Pro CC.

[nulldogmas]

Upgrade to RX9 from Elements is now $149, per the loyalty offers page.

[checht]

Audience chatter/yells removal idea: Rather than spectral repair, what about separating the vocal stem and then deleting sections where there's audience but no band vocal, and repairing places where they are coincident? Been playing around and seems pretty good. Seems easier and move complete removal to simply delete.

Anyone tried this method?

Thoughts?

[checht]

Upgraded to 9 for $49 via loyalty page.

New dynamic mode in de-hum is genius, made huge improvement to recording of Stanley Clarke this week w PA issues.

[rigpimp]

Upgraded to 9 for $49 via loyalty page.

New dynamic mode in de-hum is genius, made huge improvement to recording of Stanley Clarke this week w PA issues.

I have been using RX since version 1.2 and would like to buy and upgrade to rx9 advanced.  What is the best-suggested path without shelling out $500+?  I owe these folks some scratch but I am losing my job next month.

[checht]

I've found very best prices to be Sweetwater Black Friday. But that's not for a while.

Maybe go to 9 standard and wait for an offer?

What features in Adv are you looking for over std?

[nassau73]

I agree that the Standard and wait for an upgrade offer is a good path.

Personally, for my more pedestrian usage, I find that Standard gives me the primary repair tools I need.

To complete any "sweetening", Ozone 9 Advanced has been very helpful.

[lmgbtapes]

I just broke into ozone for the first time. This thing is insane. Holds your hand like crazy.

[checht]

[snip]
To complete any "sweetening", Ozone 9 Advanced has been very helpful.

Curious about your sweetening workflow.

To improve distant vocals, I've been using music rebalance to grab the vocal stem and mixing it back in to the track, with great result.

[nassau73]

Checht
Curious about your sweetening workflow.

To improve distant vocals, I've been using music rebalance to grab the vocal stem and mixing it back in to the track, with great result.
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I don’t think that my workflow should be a model for anyone. I’m still learning a lot of this and am amazed at how recordings I have mastered in the past and thought that they were pretty good can now sound not exactly perfect. And as I try new procedures, that can change my approach going forward.

I’m glad grabbing the stem and adding it in is working for you. I haven’t done much with Music Rebalance because it seems my computer can’t handle the resource hit (the CPU fan persistently reminds me).

The recordings I work on are done with croakie mounted AT 933’s on my glasses. So even though I can usually record from a decent location, the raw recordings can usually use a little “help”.

After cleaning up the recording in RX, I’ll bring up Ozone as an RX plugin. Advanced has the Master Assist function which is what I start with. It gives a nice starting point for EQ settings and the like.

First I try to get the levels set to a point where I still have some flexibility to make any adjustments. The Gain Match feature is very helpful to be able to bypass Ozone and compare with the original recording at the same listening levels.

At this point it’s just time to fiddle with the various Ozone modules. Stacking the Master Assist suggestions in different orders or modifying the EQ curves is pretty much the same as what we’d do in RX except, for me, the Ozone modules are much nicer to work with. Each one has presets that give a chance to see what effects various changes can have. They can be modified, turned on and off or isolated.

So, for me, once I get the overall “feel” to be somewhat transparent, I’ll experiment with things like using Low End Focus, adding an extra EQ module or seeing if the Imager can enhance the sound.

[checht]

^ thanks for the info!

[nassau73]

^ thanks for the info!

It's hard to visualize a workflow in Ozone just by a written description. A demo of some of the newer features in version 9 is available at the Izotope site. The exact URL is 3 lines long for a copy/paste. So google Ozone 9 Demo and visit the official site.

Ozone Advanced IS SPENDY, but as has been discussed earlier in this thread about upgrading RX, that's the route I followed here. Got the low end version and took advantage of the upgrade offers.

[rigpimp]

Yes, I know this is an RX9 thread but I am still over here upgrading/crossgrading iZotope products.

I discovered the iZotope portal today and added the serial number for my copy of Ozone Elements to it.  Sweetwater has a $199 Ozone Advanced 9 upgrade from Elements 7-9.  I am not sure why upgrades from Standard are $50 more but I'll take it.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Ozone9AdUpEl--izotope-ozone-9-advanced-mastering-suite-upgrade-from-ozone-elements-7-9

[checht]

What's the value proposition for Ozone advanced? How has it been useful?

[rigpimp]

What's the value proposition for Ozone advanced? How has it been useful?

Larger number of features and many more presets.  I like to start with Remove Mud preset for clearing up muddy/boomy rooms and tweak from there.  I'm not that hot at starting EQ from scratch and use presets as a bit of a crutch starting point.

[nassau73]

First - as rigpimp mentioned about discovering the Izotope portal...
If any RX or other Izotope users have not installed the portal - it's a good idea to do so and check every once in awhile. Program updates for the stuff you own will be installed and you'll be notified of other free plugins that may be available.

What's the value proposition for Ozone advanced? How has it been useful?

Larger number of features and many more presets.  I like to start with Remove Mud preset for clearing up muddy/boomy rooms and tweak from there.  I'm not that hot at starting EQ from scratch and use presets as a bit of a crutch starting point.

I have to add myself to the contingent of non-professional music mastering folks. The pre-sets are a helpful way to start a mastering session.

For users like checht, who are satisfied with RX for separating a vocal stem and reintroducing it to your current music file - the question would be - what do you feel you still need other than what you are getting from within your version of RX. If you're satisfied - you're good.

For me, starting off with the suggestions by using Master Assist, it's kinda like Adobe starting you off with your original file in the Master Rack module. Unlike Adobe Master Rack where you start from scratch with everything, Master Assist gives you a starting point. You can choose to use it or not since you are presented with a preview prior to accepting and using the suggestion as your starting point.

If you do accept the starting point in Ozone, you now are able to stack different modules as with Adobe Mastering Rack which I've not been able to do in RX.

One thing to also keep in mind is that if you're working with 24 bit files and want to use Traders Little Helper to create flac files, you can use RX to export the regions to files in 24 bit. At least the last version of Adobe that I had been using saves as 32 bit float which the version of TLH that I have does not handle.

The other thing I just learned recently in working with 24 bit files for uploads to Lossless Legs is that align on sector boundaries only pertains to files you're converting to 16/44.1 for CD burning. Since you can't burn 24/48 or higher for CD's, sector boundaries no longer come into consideration.

[rigpimp]

It is currently cheaper to buy Ozone 9 Advanced outright (199.00) than it is to portal upgrade it from Elements (370.00)  Go figure.     Even the academic pricing is higher (249.50)

Edit: Coupon code FRET10 gets you 10% off sitewide

[ballerusk]

Maybe I should invest in this. My limited knowledge and skill in Audacity leaves my recordings with low volume after normalizing so maybe this is a bit more of a magic wand?

[nulldogmas]

Maybe I should invest in this. My limited knowledge and skill in Audacity leaves my recordings with low volume after normalizing so maybe this is a bit more of a magic wand?

You mean even after normalizing? If normalizing is actually making the levels quieter, something is definitely going wrong.

In my experience, you don't need RX for things like levels, EQ, dynamic compression, etc., though it does all that nicely enough. It's next-level stuff like "bring up the vocals relative to the instruments" or "eliminate that one guy clapping out of rhythm during the music" that RX is really unbeatable at.

[ballerusk]

Haha, yes, I mean even after normalizing. I need to turn up the volume double during playback compared to other songs. I guess I have to start learning (soft) compressing or something.

[rigpimp]

Does this $199 "Everything Bundle" work for anyone?

https://www.izotope.com/en/shop/paid-loyalty-deals-2.html

[checht]

When I log in, the price changes to $499.
Ozone 9 Adv upgrade down to $149 though...

[nulldogmas]

Haha, yes, I mean even after normalizing. I need to turn up the volume double during playback compared to other songs. I guess I have to start learning (soft) compressing or something.

It makes a huge difference. I usually just eyeball the dB level that 99% of the music falls under, then compress the hell (4:1) out of everything above that, which is usually all applause and stray drum hits. it's almost always impossible to hear any change from this, and it can create several dB of headroom for normalizing.

(Apologies for the topic drift.)

[rigpimp]

When I log in, the price changes to $499.
Ozone 9 Adv upgrade down to $149 though...

I guess it was a price mistake that only lasted for about 40 minutes according to the folks that were actually able to grab it.  Apparently, Izotope had fixed it by the time I posted it here.

[DavidPuddy]

I had an upgrade offer to RX9 for $99. What a steal.

[rigpimp]

RX Elements to RX 9 Standard upgrade for $99:

https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/9121

For those who are unaware of this vendor: I bought RX Elements at plugin boutique on June 20th for 8.18 Euros and it was a simple and fast digital transaction just like you would see at Sweetwater.  The key was immediately recognized in the iZotope portal.  Reviews/comments of this vendor can be found over on Gearslutz, like here: https://gearspace.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/971599-pluginboutique-com-reputable-dealer.html

[voltronic]

I posted about this on another thread, but I encourage anyone interested in RX to pay the extra money for the Standard version. The Spectral Denoise and Spectral Repair modules alone are worth it; they use some sort of dark magic to do what they do.

[rigpimp]

I posted about this on another thread, but I encourage anyone interested in RX to pay the extra money for the Standard version. The Spectral Denoise and Spectral Repair modules alone are worth it; they use some sort of dark magic to do what they do.

I didn't see a post for the $99 RX upgrade or I would have just bought it.  Where is it posted?

Sweetwater called me this morning after my Ozone 9 Advanced upgrade purchase and I told Cam the same thing that I repeat often, "There is a special place in heaven for the engineers/developers of iZotope algorithms."

[DavidPuddy]

I posted about this on another thread, but I encourage anyone interested in RX to pay the extra money for the Standard version. The Spectral Denoise and Spectral Repair modules alone are worth it; they use some sort of dark magic to do what they do.

You're correct, but it's usually much cheaper to buy Elements first then upgrade than it is to outright purchase Standard

[rigpimp]

I posted about this on another thread, but I encourage anyone interested in RX to pay the extra money for the Standard version. The Spectral Denoise and Spectral Repair modules alone are worth it; they use some sort of dark magic to do what they do.

You're correct, but it's usually much cheaper to buy Elements first then upgrade than it is to outright purchase Standard

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[voltronic]

I posted about this on another thread, but I encourage anyone interested in RX to pay the extra money for the Standard version. The Spectral Denoise and Spectral Repair modules alone are worth it; they use some sort of dark magic to do what they do.

I didn't see a post for the $99 RX upgrade or I would have just bought it.  Where is it posted?

Sweetwater called me this morning after my Ozone 9 Advanced upgrade purchase and I told Cam the same thing that I repeat often, "There is a special place in heaven for the engineers/developers of iZotope algorithms."

Sorry, I wasn't being clear. I didn't post about the upgrade offer in another thread; I found out about that here. What I posted elsewhere was just that I recommend just going for the Standard version as that includes some of the most special sauce available in RX, and I personally wouldn't want to get by without Spectral Denoise for what I do.

[voltronic]

I posted about this on another thread, but I encourage anyone interested in RX to pay the extra money for the Standard version. The Spectral Denoise and Spectral Repair modules alone are worth it; they use some sort of dark magic to do what they do.

You're correct, but it's usually much cheaper to buy Elements first then upgrade than it is to outright purchase Standard

Oh is it really? That's great to know!

[rigpimp]

I posted about this on another thread, but I encourage anyone interested in RX to pay the extra money for the Standard version. The Spectral Denoise and Spectral Repair modules alone are worth it; they use some sort of dark magic to do what they do.

You're correct, but it's usually much cheaper to buy Elements first then upgrade than it is to outright purchase Standard

Oh is it really? That's great to know!

I paid nothing for Ozone Elements (splice.com promo).  Yesterday I paid $99 for Ozone Advanced upgrade from Sweetwater.  $199 Standard Upgrade in my loyalty account.  (The Advanced loyalty offering is gone now that I have it.)

For RX Elements I paid 8.18 euros from Plugin Boutique and they have an upgrade to Standard for $269 but my loyalty account has Standard upgrade for $149 and Advanced upgrade for $499.  You kind of have to shop around.

[DavidPuddy]

I'm working on a mic/sbd matrix and want to get rid of some crowd reactions, whistles, etc from the mic source. Would it be best to work on this before combining sources?

[checht]

That's my usual workflow.

I usually use spectral repair's replace function, as it seems less likely to create sonic artifacts compared to attenuate. But with either, sometimes I think I can hear more aggressive repair, almost like there's been a disturbance in the force  spectrum.

Mixing the sbd in post repair seems to smooth that out somewhat. Not certain, but I think I've heard benefit of ordering things that way.

Hope this helps...

[voltronic]

That's my usual workflow.

I usually use spectral repair's replace function, as it seems less likely to create sonic artifacts compared to attenuate. But with either, sometimes I think I can hear more aggressive repair, almost like there's been a disturbance in the force  spectrum.

Mixing the sbd in post repair seems to smooth that out somewhat. Not certain, but I think I've heard benefit of ordering things that way.

Hope this helps...

This is solid advice. Spectral repair attenuate can easily turn into a place where you have put a black hole of nothingness into the place where the offending noise used to be, and that can draw attention to itself. Replace works extremely well if you good samples for it to pull from.

With all of these tools, you have to be careful not to let yourself be led by the visual changes to the spectrogram, but by your ears. Just because you can still see the remnants of a noise does not necessarily mean you need to go more aggressive to eradicate it.

[DavidPuddy]

Thanks all. It's a delicate balance and a little frustrating when attempting to eliminate a rowdy patron results in phase galore. Sometimes, less is truly more